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Old 10th September 2005, 04:11
Kephrem Kephrem is offline
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Originally Posted by peedi
why is it that white-puerto ricans are quick to say i got african blood in me
i never heard of a "white puerto rican" saying they have african blood

most "white puerto ricans" would tell you straight up that they are of spaniard descent

however other puerto ricans that might be percieved as white, but who know what their heritage is, would say they are mixed and would claim taino &/or black heritage

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but don't like black people period?
there's pr's who don't like blacks and blacks that don't like pr's

if you know a "white puerto rican" who claims "african blood" but turns around and doesn't like blacks then they're just bs'ing you


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american-whites and hispanic americans who don't like african americans or african people
are all "american whites" and all "hispanic americans" (what is the connection btw? why not put asians, other africans, indians and europeans in the equation as well?) supposed to "like" ALL african americans and all africans??

i know AA's and Africans that don't like ALL Hispanics, so what is your point??

and you wern't specific enough when you mentioned "hispanic" because many hispanics are black or have black heritage

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dance to music and do african derived dances? wtf
some white americans dance and listen to black music and don't like blacks and this has been going on since the jazz era so are you just finding this out??

furthermore, AA's nor continental Africans made the "spanish language music" you speak of, it was black hispanics and hispanics of color in the caribbean islands and other latin american countries that did

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spain has salsa why?
does it? if so, what is the point you are trying to make? salsa has been an international music for around 30 years, and they (spain) had nothing to do with its creation


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they make monkey noises when they see negros on other futbol teams.
what does that have to do with PuertoRico.com? go to a spanish soccer fan site and state your grievance with their uncivilized behaviour


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puerto ricans who say tainos and spanish people shaped p.r?
that uneducated school of thought is not the thinking of all pr's

but i don't doubt that you heard some ignorant person (or people) make such a ridiculous statement, and foolishly neglect to include the black puerto rican and the vast contribution of black boriquas into that equation


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they say the african derived music was really created by the tainos
who's "they"?

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and then mocked by the africans but is in better condition cause it is umbrella by the term latin rather than afro then a hyphen!
this portion of your diatribe was undecipherable


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african americans who try to say p.rs are similar to them cause of africans<< yeah right only black-puerto rican and some mullatos are similar to american-blacks!
when AA's say that THEY ACTUALLY MEANT the "black-puerto rican and some mullatos"

well actually ALL mullatos

as well as the pr's with obvious amerindian heritage

which is something many AA's have as well

or did you think they were refering to spaniard descended pr's when they spoke of the similarities??

you do realize that white europeans colonized that island yes??



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prs in the united states abandoned there pr ways
yes some did to a large degree

but some no matter how hard they try will never be able to escape it (the culture or heritage)

even on the musical side of tings, the reggaeton that's out now is pointing back to the island, and to roots


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they know if they were back on the island they would not evn associate with black puerto ricans as most don't
and you know that how?

obviously you must be talking about light skin pr's in the states, so are you saying that all of the light skin pr's once back in pr will not associate with family members or people in their towns who are black etc??


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truth is regardless if you have african blood in you it does not make you black or mixed you are white!
if someone is white then they are white there's no denying that

but there's some that may look white and actually have recent black heritage which is obvious even in some AA's

then you have people who are very very dark skinned, AA's, Pr's, etc., and mentally they are pure lily white


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if both of your parents are white then you are white!
that should be obvious

but since i know you are talking about pr's i would say it isn't so clear cut

i say that because while some may appear "white" you might have two seemingly looking white parents and they're actually mestizo and have more amerindian and caribbean black culture in their everyday life then many AA's



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what about asians there are asians in puerto rico too. now what are yall gonna say we are a mixure of asian african taino and spanish? if so don't play yourself.
your talking jibberish son



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everyone is not black,

thats correct, and some are only "black" in complexion and thats where their "blackness" ends

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every one is not spanish
the only spanish would be the people of spain

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and every one does not have taino in them
that is also true

and in my opinion those who want to proclaim outright that they have no "taino in them" should stop saying they are boriqua, because if you say that in my presence you will get checked to your face

i tell spaniard pr's i meet all the time that they are not boriqua


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i don't know why prs try to say they have all these races in their blood when in reality most puerto ricans are just spanish.
most pr's are not spanish, in reality many pr's check the white catergory even if they are black, mulatto, or mestizo


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that reminds me of many dominicans like to throw the indio card around man please you guys are mullato
you make that statement as if all dominicans are mulatto

but you really don't know what youre talking about, i know some dr's and they're straight up indio, some are black, some are mixed black & amerindian (considered black), some are mestizo, some are mixed black & spanish (mulatto), and some are white spanish



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and many are just negro theres no indians in the domincan republic.
you say that as if "indians" are supposed to be living like they did before that moorish devil colombus invaded with his mixed criminal fleet

anyway, i know dr's and some are indio straight up

i messed with a dominican chic years ago and you couldve put her with a group of east indian girls and she wouldve blended right in

i seen old dark skinned dominican men in the heights that were indio

not all indians in this hemisphere looked alike, this is where the notion i think comes from when people say "there's no indians in pr, cuba, dr, etc" as if caribbean people have never seen indio looking people all their life, in their own family, their friends, etc, from these places, even sometimes calling them "indio/india" as a nickname



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united states- whats the heritage of the united states?
native americans, african american blacks, and different europeans?

should people go around saying im a mixture of native, african american and european just cause of the beginning trials(making) of america?
actually there are groups of people that do exactly that, because they have that mixture

they're called "melungeons"


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alot of native american tribes have mixed with white men doe that make them mixed today? no they are native american.
do you mean north american tribes? if so, can you prove that "many" have mixed with white men as in the whole of the NA tribes rather then just individuals?

btw many have mixed with black men and women as well

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puerto ricans who think people are not puerto rican cause they are too black lol or too white.
it would be my guess that only a uneducated puerto rican in the states would think a pr can be "too white" or "too black", which in my opinion is the result of an lack of an education on PR history, and from a lack of travel to the Isla

Last edited by Kephrem; 10th September 2005 at 04:29.
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