[RPR]

Originally Posted by L_F_Miranda

RPR wrote:

"Classic Stereotype from Miranda about Nuyoricans."

Which stereotype?

1- That most Nuyoricans are uneducated except for a handful? I bet you would say this isn't so! But check out the statistics. As a group, we are the poorest and least educated Hispanics in the U.S. I didn't invent this. By covering it up we only perpetuate the problem. We should tackle this probem even though it's painful.

2- That a great portion of Nuyoricans have adopted the Black American discourse? There have been heated discussions here about this, I simply repeat it.

3- That It's been 4 generations and we don't have much to show for it here in the US. See statistics on Hispanics and then we'll talk. There is also an explanation to this.

4- That in Puerto Rico Nuyoricans have become the vanguard of assimilation? That has been the theory of Eduardo Seda and a lot of PIP intellectualks, not so Juan Ma. He thinks we have invaded Gringo land and will eventually change it.

RPR it's folks like you who feel their isn't a problem, or if there is, it isn't a big deal. We Folkorize our poverty and ignorance like its pure Puerto Rican. We become like some Black intellectuals, those who folkorize ghetto culture.

In a way we perpetuate the problem by refusing to even acknowledge there is one. In fact PR is two two nations, a conservative poverty ridden one in the U.S. and a more educated, but rabidly conservative one in P.R.

Nuyoricans are not the sole one liners on the web. I simply stated that most likely it was the folks who had 4 + years of college the ones most likely to discuss in depth. I even went as far as suggesting that we can have both.......Fluff , one liners and in depth discussions, however Suki will hit the ceiling, LOL .

Are you still looking at statistics from the 80's? The most recent statistics show Mexican-Americans and Dominicans have attained the least amount of education and we're speaking about those born in the US. No,we're not at the top but certainly not at the bottom as we have made some gains. The same hold true for poverty rates. Times have change and we have progressed, although not as much as we should. Ironically,other Hispanic groups have remain stagnant economically and in education attainments in the same time period ( last 10-15 years).

Our problem is not the black discourse per se but rather the ultra left liberal policies which have destroyed families. Puerto Ricans on the island made not be as wealthy on a whole but their families are generally intact. As you pointed out, Boricuas on the island are more conservative socially as oppose to "Nuyoricans" which have been subjected to the failed left social policies.