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Old 3rd July 2009, 19:01
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Originally Posted by clip314 View Post
What folks in Puerto Rico and the US quite don't understand is that voting for statehood is not like picking a Miss Universe contestant.

It's not whether the majority picks this or that status choice, its whether it works within the best interests of the United States, and also it has to fit into its conception of REAL POLITIKS.

Best interests? , REAL POLITIKS?

Hawaii was declared an " Incorporated Territory", territories in line for future statehood, in 1895. On the other hand Puerto Rico was never INCORPORATED, thus creating a BIG PROBLEM. In fact Supreme Court cases ( the insular cases) have declared over and over again that the American citizenship of Puerto Rico was never intended for statehood, see Balzac Vs. Puerto Rico, 1923. As they put it, Puerto Rico belongs to the U.S. but we are not a part of the U.S. Go figure. Yes this can change, however there are more things that make Americans fear us more as a state than letting us go.

What most Puerto Ricans, on the island and in the U.S. refuse to acknowledge is that the statehood movement on the island has grown by leaps and bounds, not because Puerto Ricans want to become americans, but because they, the poor which is the majority, have been promised to be taken care of for all eternity by handouts, welfare, disability payments etc. etc. They have been thought to fear independence and will fight tooth and nail against it.

Why?

Roughly, give or take, up or down, 65% of the island depends on welfare and most of these voters are 500% pro-statehood. Another large group depends on SSI disability payments, or have lucrative pensions from the armed forces. Most of the political big wigs owe their jobs to administering the colony. They are corrupt and live very well, so why go against the tide? The Obama free medi-care will also swell pro-statehood numbers more, maybe to 95% of the population. Imagine, even the Puerto Rico medical assocation is 100% for the Obama care package. In contrast their colegues in the United States don't want it. MMMMMMM is it our welfare mentality?

Think, who in their right mind on this island is willing to cut off the goose that lays the golden eggs? Certainly not the majority of Puerto Ricans.

On the other hand this growing demand by welfare recipents will eventually cause a problem in Congress. In fact Congress has never been on record saying that statehood is an option. We only IMAGINE THAT IT IS!

Why is statehood a problem for Congress?

Because as a state Puerto Rico, different from Hawaii and Alaska, is overpopulated with folks, who in the majority can't speak English, or don't care a hoot to speak it.

Then why are they statehooders?

The statehood movement has PROMISED them that Puerto Rico can be a "Spanish State", and on top of that recieve "PARITY" with the other states, meaning that welfare payments will increase ten fold. That is called "LOS BENEFICIOS DE LA ESTADIDAD! "

What about paying U.S taxes? DUHHHHHHHHH What's that?

Because Puerto Rico will be the poorest state in the union "all taxes paid to Uncle Sam on April 15 will be RETURNED FULLY via INCOME TAX CREDITS. In other words, statehood is a lotto dream come true for Puerto Ricans and a rip off for hard working americans who have to pay taxes even though they 're unemployed.

żY a quien le amarga un dulce? translation, "who thinks a candy is bitter?

WAIT, It just gets better.

Because of population, Puerto Rico will have an congressional delegation LARGER THAN 27 English speaking states, some of which have been in the union since 1776!

Republicans in congress already fear that most Puerto Ricans will be Democrats, after all its the party that distributes welfare. On top of that Republicans, and many others fear that a huge Hispanic delegation will begin fighting to make the U.S a bilingual nation. That they will form coalitions with other Hispanics, Mexicans, Dominicans etc. and eventually bring in the Blacks, thus creating a huge congressional block of poverty and angry folks demanding more welfare and affirmative action.

I could almost see Sarah Palin's face and hear the FOX news crowd when they become aware of this. LOL

BOTTOM LINE, Puerto Rico has not become a state simply because its not in the BEST INTERESTS of the United States. Congress will only face our status problem when ever Puerto Ricans put their "COJONES" in their place and corner Congress to take a stand and spell out the CONDITIONS they are willing to grant. Until then its a useless merry go round of "Dime y Diretes" , tit for tats, among ourselves.

However we must also take into account that a dwindling white population, who percieves itself cornered, fears that a Puerto Rican state will be the begining of transforming the nation into a Puerto Rican day parade 24/7. LOL

I know these are harsh words and they are also a very cruel reality.

I welcome a Statehood petition NOW to get this over with as soon as posible.

And I bet you folks here, it will not be statehood, even though the majority in Puerto Rico want it.

There will be NEGOTIATIONS. Why? Americans are practical and aren't fools.
Hi there clip314 you really do not have to tell me that the so called "statehood" that the New Progressive party has been selling locally is nothing but a huge sand castle! The biggest that has ever been built probably in the history of mankind. I am a realist I know that it will be a very uphill battle to reach Statehood as in being an actual state and not Elephant marching in and crushing everyone beneath as the NPP promised statehood would be. I know that every relationship needs to have people from both sides gaining something and not just one side gaining everything while one side gains nothing! Not even marriage works like that...
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