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Old 6th October 2002, 23:48
Ecuajey Ecuajey is offline
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Originally posted by LatinoPR
Citizenship can not be stripped unless requested by those that have it. I do not believe the stories that it can be taken away because it is a "statutory citizenship". Again, reciprocal citizenship rights, not american citizenship is what would work for many that fear losing it. Those keeping American citizenship, for whatever reason, can be allowed to vote, if the Puerto Rican government allowed it. Take the case of American Jews. Many have moved to Isreal and there, they have dual citizenship.
Yes, there are many people with dual citizenship. However, I read in an article in the Puerto Rico Herald, a while back, that if a person votes in a foreign election, USA citizenship will be revoked. You don't have to ask for your citizenship to be revoked, the USA gov't could do it without you consent. Maybe those Jews don't vote in the Israeli elections, I don't know.

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Originally posted by LatinoPR
The same case can be applied to Puerto Rico. American citizenship, just like you said, is good for leaving the island, like in my case, for work. If Puerto Ricans were allowed to move freely, like the case of the Micronesians, to work in the states, it would alleviate the economic hardships of many Puerto Rican families.
Again, what would be the point? If we don't create a Republic that won't have such hardships on a large-scale, like it is now, then I see no point for independence. Micronesia's population no where compares to Puerto Rico.

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Originally posted by LatinoPR
Do you really believe that 3.8 million people would be living in Puerto Rico once it becomes independent? I believe at least half of the population would move for whatever reason they would have (losing U.S. citizenship, fear of the unknown, etc, etc.) leaving 1.6 million to live in the new republic.
I never wrote that the 4 million on the island will remain after independence. It would be good for space and resources if half the population left, but in the long run, it'll create problems. Look at the Diaspora population now. Many of them are moving back to the island, with little knowledge of PR history, culture, mentality and language. The ones on the mainland live in poverty. However, que será, será....

Anyway, the voter turn-out part is directly tied with USA citizenship, so your response to it is flawed. However, my point might be as well. Do you know any other sites that states the standards for USA citizenship? Again, if Puerto Rican citizens of the Republic will be afraid to loose their USA citizenship if they vote in PR elections, but don't want to leave the island, it could cause a problem for Puerto Rican democracy when you see very little people voting. Again, voting in a foreign election and having your USA citizenship revoked may or may not be true. However, it could be established. There are many in the USA who want to kick Puerto Rico out of the USA and into the cold, and don't want PR residents to obtain USA citizens after independence. It's like, if you want to leave, then leave everything we gave you at the door. There's some logic to that, however, Puerto Ricans have faught and died for many things we have, and that shouldn't be in vain. I believe that those who want to keep USA citizenship after independence should. However, it should be up to the USA gov't.

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Originally posted by LatinoPR
In reference to an invasion, I do not believe it would happen, but influence from other countries such as China could happen. Just look to Panama, where the Chinese have taken root and at this moment are running part of the canal and moving personnel into what was american military bases. That my friend, I would not like to see in Borinquen.
I knew you were going to write this. Why is Panamá allowing China to buy some of the canal and land in Panamá? They need the money. In the Republic of Puerto Rico, this shouldn't be the case. Therefore, no nation should be able to influence Puerto Rico like they do to the rest of Latin America. It all comes down to money. I'm not thinking of a Utopia, however, if we're going to have the chance to prepare for Puerto Rico's economic, political and cultural future, (I think it'll take more than 10 or 15 years.) then we might as well do the best we can.

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Thanks for the link you gave for the website, but it didn't work at first. Then I noticied you placed a period on the link after "htm;" I removed it and then it worked.

[Edited by Ecuajey on 8th October 2002 at 04:21]
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