Capital Punishment

[r_so]

Is capital punishment considered "wrong" in the Catholic belief?

[Pregonero]

Hello r_so?
What determines whether capital punishment is right or wrong is not catholic belief, but The Bible. And I want to tell you from the get go, that catholic belief is plagued with official doctrines, which are in direct opposition to The Bible.
Capital punishment is a divine commandment, not an invention of any religious establishment. Therefore, it should be applied as an act of obedience to GOD. GOD ordained it, GOD instituted it, and GOD expects us to abide by it.
In these days, politicians, libertarians, psychologists, artists, and religious leaders are in opposition to capital punishment. My problem is with the religious leaders, because they should know better. I don't know who told them that they could have opinions about what GOD has declared. No religious leader has the authority, nor the liberty to refute what GOD has ordained.
Many people, including those who call themselves "christians", oppose capital punishment because they have not gone to The Bible in search of foundation for their position. Most of them make up their mind, based on what they hear from such and such, dut they have no idea of what The Bible says about it.
It is sad that something tragic has to occur for people to understand how righteous and just, capital punishment is. Sadly, it takes a Timothy McVeigh or an Osama Sin Madre to make us face the need and purpose of capital punishment.
Religious leaders oppose capital punishment under the pretext of mercy. They believe (not according to The Bible, but their own ideologies) that opposing capital punishment, they show mercy. WRONG! The mercy of GOD never violates His law. GOD forgave our sins, for which we should've die, but JESUS died in our place. In that way, GOD granted us mercy and satisfied His law and justice.
I will continue later....

[Pregonero]

Many religious leaders argue that capital punishment has been abolished with the law of Moses. For their information, the law was not abolished, but accomplished; by JESUS, of course.
Now, the same way we do not commit adultery under the pretext that the law has been done away with, violent criminals should not be allowed to escape the ultimate consequence of their crimes.
Capital punishment has an specific purpose and is targeted to violent criminals. It is intended to refrain criminality and to give criminals, something to think about, before they commit their crimes.
Sorry, I must continue later....

[Amos]

Originally posted by Pregonero
Hello r_so?
What determines whether capital punishment is right or wrong is not catholic belief, but The Bible. And I want to tell you from the get go, that catholic belief is plagued with official doctrines, which are in direct opposition to The Bible.
Capital punishment is a divine commandment, not an invention of any religious establishment. Therefore, it should be applied as an act of obedience to GOD. GOD ordained it, GOD instituted it, and GOD expects us to abide by it.
In these days, politicians, libertarians, psychologists, artists, and religious leaders are in opposition to capital punishment. My problem is with the religious leaders, because they should know better. I don't know who told them that they could have opinions about what GOD has declared. No religious leader has the authority, nor the liberty to refute what GOD has ordained.
Many people, including those who call themselves "christians", oppose capital punishment because they have not gone to The Bible in search of foundation for their position. Most of them make up their mind, based on what they hear from such and such, dut they have no idea of what The Bible says about it.
It is sad that something tragic has to occur for people to understand how righteous and just, capital punishment is. Sadly, it takes a Timothy McVeigh or an Osama Sin Madre to make us face the need and purpose of capital punishment.
Religious leaders oppose capital punishment under the pretext of mercy. They believe (not according to The Bible, but their own ideologies) that opposing capital punishment, they show mercy. WRONG! The mercy of GOD never violates His law. GOD forgave our sins, for which we should've die, but JESUS died in our place. In that way, GOD granted us mercy and satisfied His law and justice.
I will continue later....

Jesus died for the sins of his world and told you to pick up your cross so you can die for the sins of your world.

If one sin is not greater than another you would be shot after the first sin you commit. Or where would you draw the line here? Kill one is OK but kill two is wrong? or maybe is it wrong to kill a "Christian" but not a Catholic?

I suppose it will be the same as with your method of salvation: "if you really really believe you will be saved" but if you only "really believe you might not be saved."

[Amos]

Originally posted by r_so
Is capital punishment considered "wrong" in the Catholic belief?

[Pregonero]

Amos, JESUS died for the sins of the world, not His world. I don't have to die for the sins of my world. I am no savior, nor messiah. I am a sinner who recognized JESUS as THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD, and sought refuge in CHRIST.
I see that you still make no sense. I never sid that it's OK to kill a catholic. And I don't have to draw any line, because GOD already has. All I need to do is abide by what GOD has said. The purpose of capital punishment is to prevent anybody from getting killed, murdered, raped, kidnaped, etc. And if someone dares to commit that type of crime anyway, to make sure that individual will not do it again.
Too many violent crimes have been committed by people who should not had a second opportunity. Remember Megan's case?
Will be back.....

[Edited by Pregonero on 11th December 2001 at 02:45]

[Pregonero]

Helo everyone!
I just read this week, about the murder of the postman in Bayamón, P.R. It's unbelievable! The poor man gets to his house, to find a band of thieves inside the house, waiting for him. They tied his hands and somehow, the man is able to run out of the house, into the street, trying to scape. As he ran, they shot in the back about eight times. When he fell mortally wounded, one of them came and shot him in the head, to make sure that he would not survive. (Maybe he knew them.)
Now you tell me: What do these creeps deserve? Should anyone defend them in court? Are they deserving of any mercy? Lets answer these questions.
1) They deserve the death penalty. They showed no appreciation for somebody else's life. And the way they murdered this man was pre-meditated, violent, and merciless. These are the biblical requirements for someone to receive the death penalty.
2) If I were a lawyer, I would never defend anyone accused of these types of crimes, unless, there is sufficient evidence of the innocence of the accused.
3) These social parasites should have one choice and only one choice. It is this: Face the consecuences of their actions, pay for what they have done, suffer the rightful punishment for their crime, and honestly repent before GOD in order to escape the eternal punishment. These creeps can stop being creeps, if they repent and ask for GOD'S forgiveness, with a sicere heart. [b]JESUS will be their Lawyer before THE FATHER, for sure.[b] But that does not mean that they don't have to be faced with the death penalty. GOD'S mercy does not violate justice. As sinners we were supposed to die, but GOD granted us mercy. Now, this does not mean that nobody died for our sins. JESUS died in our place. For GOD to give us mercy and fulfill HIS justice, JESUS had to die on the cross.
I think it is high time that criminals be faced with the punishment commanded by GOD. And it is high time for ministers to stop using the mercy of GOD as an excuse for criminals to escape the death penalty under the presumption that [u]soooooomedaaaaaay[u] they might convert and become an evangelist. In the meantime they send to hell a whole bunch of souls via their crimes.