Greek Lessons

[El_Jibaro]

[i]

2 Peter 3:14-16

14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which IGNORANT and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Ignorance is the LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. We are all born ignorant. Learning FACTS does away with the ignorance. However, some religious circles like Jehovah Witnesses and Radical Islam rely on IGNORANCE to keep their bound and gagged members in line under the exploitive guidance of evil corrupt leaders. Some people enjoy bondage, they shun the TRUTH and even love DEATH, as we have seen since September 11, 2001. But for those persons who LOVE LIFE to learn the TRUTH is imperative.

FACTS are the ANTIDOTE not only to IGNORANCE but of blatant LIES.

For example, Jehovah Witnesses convert the New Testament into a manual for POLYTHEISM when they deliberative translate John's Gospel Chapter One Verse One to mean that somehow the WORD is a god. If the WORD be a god, then GOD would be condoning IDOLATRY when HE allows the entire Universe to WORHIP the LAMB in Revelation Chapter 5. Though Islam believes Christianity to be polytheistic, the only HISTORICAL and REAL answer to this slander is that all REAL Christians believe in ONE GOD: the Father-Son-Holy Spirit are not three gods, but ONE GOD. The deliberate distortion of John 1:1 by Jehovah Witnesses, not present in any serious and documented translation of the New Testament, is no accident by their leadership, since they have access to the FACTS, but to the many faithful Jehovah Witnesses their lack of access to the FACTS keep them in check.

Well, the following lesson in Greek will help any tormented Jehovah Witness who wants to know the TRUTH and will also help any Real Christian who may have questions on how John 1:1 should be translated.

First of all, New Testament Greek is not like Spanish or English in the sense that our modern languages have lost DECLENSIONS and CASES. Greek, like ancient Latin, ancient Germanic, ancient Sanscrit and other historical Indo-European languages had those features which are lacked now. In Spanish we make up for the lack of CASES by the use of PREPOSITIONS. In English they use less prepositions than in Spanish and they rely on WORD ORDER to a greater degree. Since we are in a Puerto Rican Forum lets focus in Spanish for a GRAMMAR REFRESHER LESSON (lets stress that total IGNORANCE of Grammar is a total obstacle in correctly interpreting and studying the Bible; if you have never had GRAMMAR taught at High School level, this refresher will provide little help, so go study Grammar before trying to understand things that are too deep for this posting to cover).

In Spanish when we write a TRANSITIVE sentence we have three components:

Subject-Verb-Predicate

For example: "PEDRO TIRA A PABLITO AL PISO." "Pedro throws Pablito to the floor".

Subject: PEDRO

Verb: TIRA

Predicate: PABLITO

Now, this type of Predicate is a DIRECT OBJECT.

Now, if we say "PEDRO LE DA LA PELOTA A PABLITO.", then we have PABLITO as an INDIRECT OBJECT.

Lets say a one more sentence:

"LA PELOTA DE PABLITO ES ROJA." "Pablito's ball is red."

This describes OWNERSHIP.

When a sentence has NO OBJECT, then it is INTRANSITIVE. In that case, what makes the sentence a COMPLETE THOUGHT is called a COMPLEMENT. Complements also can be present in Transitive Sentences. In fact, Spanish Grammar calls OBJECTS also COMPLEMENTS.

Grammar Refresher is over now, lets go to the ancient language: Greek.

In its KOINE form, that is INFORMAL everyday Mediterranean Greek of the First Century A.D., it has FOUR CASES:

For the SECOND DECLENSION: words ending in -os

NOMINATIVE - os

GENITIVE - ou pronounced "oo"

DATIVE - w pronounced "ow"

ACCUSATIVE - on

Lets use a name readily available in Greek and known to all: PAULOS

Anyone who knows Spanish knows that PAULOS and PABLO are the same guy.

The Nominative CASE describes the noun when it is the SUBJECT of the Sentence.

PAULOS

juega pelota.

The Genitive CASE describes the noun when other parts in the Sentence belong to it: OWNERSHIP.

la pelota PAULOU es roja(pronounced Pauloo).

The Dative CASE describes the noun as an INDIRECT OBJECT:

Pedro le da la pelota a PAULW (pronounced Paulow).

The Accusative CASE describes the noun when it is the DIRECT OBJECT:

Pedro tira a PAULON al piso.

Also, in Koine Greek, the CIRCUMSTANTIAL COMPLEMENT (what we usually call in English a PREPOSITIONAL PHRASE) is described with the Accusative CASE (had it been Latin we would be talking of an Ablative CASE...).

Thus PEDRO ESTABA CON PABLO (Pedro was with Pablo) would be written using a Greek CASE as:

Pedro estaba con[b] PAULON.

So lets write the following in Greek:

IN THE BEGINNING WAS SAUL, AND SAUL WAS WITH PAUL, AND PAUL WAS SAUL.

Greek Structure and English writing:

In the beginning was Saul, and Saul was with PAULON, and PAULOS was Saul.

Totally Greek:

En archey eyn ho Saulos, kai Saulos eyn pros ton PAULON, kai PAULOS eyn ho Saulos.

Now, for anyone here with a clean heart and a clean conscience: go study John 1:1 in Greek with this small Greek Grammar Primer.

[conciencia]

Scripture, since it is more of modern Greek or latin and the problem here is far more difficult they you may potray. I suggest you to take advance Koine Greek because that is the level here, so do not try to confuse the audience. Anyway, John1:1 occurance is a qualitative and not definite since it really demands a indefinite sense, that is why the the use of an English indefinite articule "a" is best used here. The fact is that all grounds can be defended on grammmatical stance, the problem arises because of the Trinitarian bias attitude to keep The Father and the Son at the same level when in reality they are not. Ackowledging the overwhelming supporting facts of pagan Trinity is a Dogma and that God is the Father and Jesus Christ is a godlike figure and not THE GOD JEHOVAH completely brings us to the context of the distinction between Father and Son whereas the Holy Spirit is not even part of this translation topic.

Because the Trinitarian know how confusing is too support such dogma, the accuse the JW of many atrocities when in fact they believe in Monotheism at the very core.

Godlike is not by definition or nature meaning a god, instead a qualities of a god status, a far of definition for what they are falsely and maliciouly accused.

[El_Jibaro]

[b][i]When you go to University, study and PASS Greek Grammar, you can come and lecture us...

[conciencia]

Jibaro,

Looks like you are bored. Jibaro you know extremelly well, your Greek studies are based on modern Greek, let go to antique Greek....Beside your Trinitarian and Prejudice University are about to be uncovered thanks to the lastest brake through of the scrolls...

Standby to eat up your Dogma and your cheap Greek teaching that will not apply to the old scriptures.

But knowing you...seeing an abism you will still follow and fall...Figure that one.

[El_Jibaro]

[b][i]Ancient languages are more GRAMMATICALLY COMPLEX than modern languages. Your very words betray your sheer IGNORANCE on Greek or any other ancient language .

Put a sock in your trap before you divulge any more of your IGNORANCE .

[conciencia]

Jibaro looks like you are not thinking strait...

Jibaro says:

Ancient languages are more GRAMMATICALLY COMPLEX than modern languages.

If you actually recognize such fact, then why do you let a bunch of supposely translators use their limited knowledge of Ancient language make a fool and a first class ignorant. Especially, when you are debating a fact you have no molecular idea!!!

Jibaro, we have a translation problem and you might as well acknowledge it, I understand if you agree with me the Trinity demonic teaching will fade away, but if you are trying to be a true Christian, consider and act soon.

The whole world knows how these translator modified these Bible translation to self serve the Trinity Dogma, otherwise the faithful or the power of that Church would have disappear.

WAKE UP JIBARO.....

[El_Jibaro]

[i]the HOLY SPIRIT.

As long as you keep in your animal state (1 Corinthians 2:14, Romans 8:6-9), void of the HOLY SPIRIT, no amount of FACTS will penetrate your thick skull, and you will always be attracted by the spirit of this age..., who happens to be the same spirit that inspires your buddy Eddie the Marxist ANTI-CHRISTIAN (1 John 4:3)[b].

But, anyway, your sheer IGNORANCE is very amusing .