Down with Spanish Names

[El_Jibaro]

Since the Spaniards were the Europeans to first set their foot OFFICIALLY in America, and because these IMPERIALISTIC Europeans came to steal, rape and kill all the Native Americans we should BAN all persons with a Spanish NAME out of the face of the Earth .......

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Manuel Alonso

[LOU-LOU]

OYE JIBARO NO SEA IGNORANTE,TU NOMBRE ES
UN NOMRE ESPANOL,TMBIEN ESO ES PARTE LA HISTORIA,A ELLOS LOS CULPABLESES ESTAN MUERTOS
EL RESTO NOTIENEN LA CULPA,,ES COMO TODOS
LOS P.RIQUENOS NO SON TERORISTAS. COMO LOS
INDEPENDNTISTAS!!!!!!!!

[Leticia_g]

Manuel,
Without our name we are nothing. It is part of our heritage and roots. If we were to kill everyone that has any significant spanish name we would be left with nothing but the people who have mixed with anglos and in some cases not even that because they would have mixed with the spanish already. I can't understand your logic. Please explain yourself.
Leticia

[El_Jibaro]

Hey Lou-lou and Leticia, DON'T YOU SEE THE IRONY ?

We are SPANISH descendants and there are some of us here that want to renounce Cristopher Colombus? Might as well curse our names ...

After all is said and done, we ARE SPANIARDS.

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Manuel Alonso

[Leticia_g]

Manuel,
Ahora comprendo en lo que referia.
Leticia

[IDeJesus]

The objection some have to the celebration of Christopher Columbus has to do with the fact that he has been called the discoverer of the Americas. It has nothing to do with Spain, especially since Columbus was Italian and not a Spaniard. The anti- Christopher Columbus school of thought seeks to give those who truly discovered the Americas credit. The campaign is an attempt to bring these very first people to their proper place in history. A History which much too frequently has treated indigenous people as if they did not exist. A History that has tended to exaggerate the accomplishments of the European settlers while ignoring how they were aided from the very first time they set foot on the Americas by the tribal people who they found here. The truth is that Columbus, would have never found his way back to Europe, since he didn't even know where he was to begin with, had it not been for the generosity of the people he encountered in the Americas, who fed him and his expedition, sheltered them and pointed them back in the direction of home.

But you won't read much of these truths in the text books used to educate our children in this country. Therein lies the rub!

[This message has been edited by IDeJesus (edited 24 October 2000).]

[El_Jibaro]

Isabel:

If you look at my wife in the face you will see what happened to all the "indians" [i.e., Native Americans]. You see, my wife is SALVADORAN. You look at her face and you can see the face of a long-ago Maya Princess painted in the murals of one of those Maya ruins. We Puerto Ricans are the EXCEPTION.

In most of Hispanic America the "indian" ethnicity is not only a "genetic" marker, but a LIVING CULTURE that blended in PERFECTLY with the Spanish culture of 1500-1700. This is not so surprising, since the Spanish Culture itself is the "evolved" Roman Culture of 2000 years ago. Every time I go the Freehold Mall I marvel at seeing a Mexican cook making a "Gyro", which is the Mediterranean equivalent of a "Taco". This may be a "coincidence" [is it "> , but to me it is not, rather I see it as a CONVERGENCE of two different Peoples living in similar climatic conditions. Therefore, I thank God that it was not Nordic Pirates who colonized much of America but Spanish Peoples, who not only took over, but BLENDED IN PERFECTLY with the locals; because BOTH PEOPLES had SIMILAR cultures. And I say SIMILAR in the sense of APPROXIMATELY similar, not of exactly similar.

Thus, the Native Americans not only taught Spaniards about Maize, Cassava, Potatoes, Annato, turkeys, DAILY BATHS, etc., etc., but they are CURRENTLY an ACTIVE CULTURAL FORCE in most of Latin America. We in Puerto Rico are the ones MOSTLY MISSING OUT ON THIS !

Interestingly MOST PUERTO RICANS dislike Mexican "wetbacks" and similar Peoples from Central America, and when they come to live in Puerto Rico they stick out like a sore thumb. They are the DESCENDANTS of the Maya and the Aztecs and the Toltecs, and yet we "white" Puerto Ricans look down on them with disdain. You will not see one of their types winning a Miss Puerto Rico contest any time soon. In fact, MOST, if not ALL, Miss Puerto Rico contestants that go to the Miss Universe Pageant are "white" Spanish girls. WHY ? Your guess is as good as mine ...

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Manuel Alonso