Down with Spanish Names

[El_Jibaro]

Isabel:

Since when does the fact that Christóforo Colombo not being a Spaniard "spare" us Spaniard-DESCENDANTS from "guilt" if we have an ANTI-COLOMBUS MOVEMENT?

Who SPONSORED the Expedition?

Who REWARDED him for going?

Who PAID for the Ships?

What was the LANGUAGE of the Ship names [Pinta, Niña & Santa María]?

From what country did most of the Sailors come from?

What People exploited these DISCOVERIES first?

Bah, it is CLEAR that the whole ANTI-COLOMBUS MOVEMENT is filled with BOGUS REASONING and AIR-HEAD IDEALISM .

Take a chair, cut its legs and try to sit on it, and you get the same effect .


ÁÉÍÓÚÜÑñíáóüéú¿¡

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Manuel Alonso

[conciencia]

Jibaro,

I like the use of your names Jibaro and Manuel Alonso which are really part of Puerto Rican History. Some of certain facts that history has failed to tell us are another mixture of Puerto Ricans, It is not just Spanish, black and Indian. Factoid, Spain was under the Arab rule for over 600 years, it was taken back over during the crusades.... However, Most of the crew ships that arrived from spain were really either mixed arabs or pure arabs. Trace: Our language is a mixture of root LAtin and gues what Arabian. examples: Ajola, we all use it as an expression but it really means God willing in arabic, Alhaundurila pronounce today by arabs, we use "arroz" they say "rroz" we say pantalon they say pantalon, alcantarilla, albanir, alfajia, alfiler and the list goes on. Architectura: Go to all of our pueblos and look at our arch figures go to Spain and then go to saudi Arabia you will be gasbing for air and you will see that that part of history has been taking away from us on purpose.

[EL_BORICUA]

Let us not lay all the blame on
the Spanish though yes they
started it,the English,French
Portugues,Americans,Mexicans
all participated in the
slaughter of the native people
in the Americas.
About Columbus that happened
long ago I am not a Spaniard
I had nothing to do with it
although the truth should be
taught.
I dont know where you get
you info that most Boricuas
hate people from Central
America this is not true.
And why"blanquitas"win the
beauty contest well as an
advocate of statehood you
should know they are
just following the lead
and model of the American
idea of beauty I figured
you would like that.
About my spanish name I
am proud of it and intend
to keep it.

[El_Jibaro]

Originally posted by conciencia
Jibaro,

I like the use of your names Jibaro and Manuel Alonso which are really part of Puerto Rican History. Some of certain facts that history has failed to tell us are another mixture of Puerto Ricans, It is not just Spanish, black and Indian. Factoid, Spain was under the Arab rule for over 600 years, it was taken back over during the crusades.... However, Most of the crew ships that arrived from spain were really either mixed arabs or pure arabs. Trace: Our language is a mixture of root LAtin and gues what Arabian. examples: Ajola, we all use it as an expression but it really means God willing in arabic, Alhaundurila pronounce today by arabs, we use "arroz" they say "rroz" we say pantalon they say pantalon, alcantarilla, albanir, alfajia, alfiler and the list goes on. Architectura: Go to all of our pueblos and look at our arch figures go to Spain and then go to saudi Arabia you will be gasbing for air and you will see that that part of history has been taking away from us on purpose.

SIN-ciencia:

If you look at the Diccionario de la Lengua de la Real Academia de la Lengua Española you will find more than 10,000 words there. Roughly 700 words in that Dictionary come from Arabic words. If you consider that the proof that Spaniards are Arabic you will have a shock when you find almost 1000 words are derived from Native American languages (does that make us full-blooded Native Americans?). If you look further, you will find that approximately half of our Spanish vocabulary is derived from Latin (does that make us Romans? I think so...). The rest of the Spanish words origins are either Germanic (Goths), or English, or French, or Italian. Even our word for BROTHER, [hermano], is really the word "German", not from the Latin word for brother, which is Frater.

So, SINciencia, instead of demanding that the GOVERNMENT educate the masses on Arabic Heritage, why don't you educate yourself first on Spanish History, Language and Culture. This information is ABUNDANTLY available in ALL OF THE UNIVERSITY LIBRARIES (and even High School libraries) of Puerto Rico. Remember, the onus is on the STUDENT to learn, not on the Teacher: you can take a mule to drink at the river's edge, but you cannot force it to drink).

ÁÉÍÓÚÜÑñíáóüéú¿¡

[ConcienciaII]

Jibaro,

The problem here is that your one way intelligence affects your whole perview of reality, of course you see only what this institution wants you to see, further take indeph education of Spanish and Arab history as well as language in other highly regarded institution of other parts of the world, perhaps you will learn more than you think you know.

[El_Jibaro]

You couldn't refute any of the facts I stated. If you want to limit yourself to the world of the subjective, as you just have, you are certainly welcomed to it. I rather prefer facts: they are the substance of which the TRUTH is made of.

[ConcienciaII]

By Conciencia:
Our language is a mixture of root LAtin and guess what Arabian. examples: Ajola, we all use it as an expression but it really means God willing in arabic, Alhaundurila pronounce today by arabs, we use "arroz" they say "rroz" we say pantalon they say pantalon, alcantarilla, albanir, alfajia, alfiler and the list goes on. Architectura: Go to all of our pueblos and look at our arch figures go to Spain and then go to saudi Arabia you will be gasbing for air and you will see that that part of history has been taking away from us on purpose
By Jibaro:
If you look at the Diccionario de la Lengua de la Real Academia de la Lengua Española you will find more than 10,000 words there. Roughly 700 words in that Dictionary come from Arabic words. If you consider that the proof that Spaniards are Arabic you will have a shock when you find almost 1000 words are derived from Native American languages (does that make us full-blooded Native Americans?). If you look further, you will find that approximately half of our Spanish vocabulary is derived from Latin (does that make us Romans? I think so...). The rest of the Spanish words origins are either Germanic (Goths), or English, or French, or Italian. Even our word for BROTHER, [hermano], is really the word "German", not from the Latin word for brother, which is Frater.

Jibaro,

They way you twist thing is a great proof of your statehooters qualifications. If you read closely you will not find that I never said that Espanoles are Arabs. I said that Arabs were amoung those who arrived in the new world. That is why as you said we have words in our language. However you also said that half of our language is derived from Latin and that rest is from other european rooting. But you also said that 1000 words are native Indians. Mathematically, as you put it only 700 plus 1000 are Arab and Indians; out of 10,000 words 5,000 are latin and he other half is European rooting. So at least you do admit of the Arab influence as far as language, well how about the rest, customs, food, architecture and more. So you are going to stand there and say that there is no Arab influence ? come on Jibaro wake up and comply you are saying it yourself.