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Old 24th May 2001, 21:02
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Many people, more than we think believes that is we participate in civil desobedience we are anti-americans. But certantly it isnt that way.

Vieques is not nor it'll be the first or last case where people protest pacifically against a law or situation that they don't agree with.

Civil desobedience is a right civilians have to protest, is the voice of the people. It is a way of reestablishment of our power from the government (representants that we select to serve us, to work towards our needs, not their)back to us.

Our fight for the humans right of puertorriquenos (Entiendase y recuerdese Vieques es Puerto Rico)has nothing to do with the ficticious relationship between PR & USA.
It has to do with the killing of our native species and ecological environment, with the health of our people, with the wellbeing of our children. I can tell because I'm also a mother, what it may feel like for a mother to have her children in risk of even dying, because of the active bombing the US NAVY has been doing in Vieques for the past 6o years.

I invite you all to visit Vieques and meet the people, see for yourself how beautiful it is, what loss it is. Vieques can be a mine of gold turism-oriented speaking. White sands, brilliant transparent turquoise beaches, some time ago dolphins played w/ children in the coasts. The beaches are so clear that when we were approaching Camp Yayi(Restringed Zone) we could see the unexploted bombs lying on the oceans floors 20 feets below us.

Please do no see our cause as a political matter, see it as a matter conserning all of us no matter political parties nor ideals.
See it as a violation of our Human Rights, as a health problem as a slow murderer who need to be stopped.

PAZ A VIEQUES, PAZ A PUERTO RICO. NI UNA BOMBA MAS.
PEACE FOR VIEQUES, PEACE FOR PUERTO RICO. NO MORE BOMBING.
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Old 27th May 2001, 19:01
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The U.S. Navy claims the Puerto Rican Island of Vieques is the only place where its Atlantic fleet can hold simultaneous land, air, and sea exercises using live bombs. Thousands of Viequenses believe their land and livelihoods are being poisoned and destroyed as a result, and opposition to the Navy's presence has grown significantly stronger. In recent weeks, another bombing mission has prompted more demonstrations and a spate of high-profile arrests.

Here, a story told mostly in numbers.

Number of years Puerto Rico has been a U.S. territory: 101

Number of years the U.S. Navy has used the Puerto Rican island of Vieques as a practice bombing-range: 60

Percent of all bombs dropped by U.S. in military practice that land in Vieques, according to local residents: 90

Percent of Vieques land controlled by U.S. Navy: 70 (about 22,000 of 33,000 acres; Vieques is twice the size of Manhattan)

Population of Vieques: 9300

Population of Kahoolawe, Hawaii, practice bombing-range used by U.S. Navy until 1994: 0

Percentage of Viequenses who live below the poverty line: 72

Number of people from Vieques employed by the U.S. Navy: 30

Number of tourists who visit Vieques per year: 4000

Locations of conflicts that U.S. troops have trained for in Vieques: Cuba, Santo Domingo, Chile, Grenada, Vietnam, Iraq, and Kosovo

Pounds of live explosives, including napalm, dropped on Vieques in November 1994, when troops were preparing for war in Yugoslavia: 20,000

Number of radioactive depleted uranium shells (which are believed to contribute to development of cancer and leukemia, among other illnesses) that the U.S Navy admitted firing on Vieques in 1998: 273

Number of depleted uranium shells the Navy said were "accidentally" fired on Vieques in February 1999: 263

Number retrieved: 56

Estimated number of unexploded bombs in Vieques, according to local residents: "thousands and thousands"

Average number of days per year the Navy bombed Vieques before President Clinton's January 2000 decree that said the Navy would only use inert (nonexploding) bombs until 2003: 260

Average number of days the U.S fires nonexploding bombs (which are extremely noisy and stir up contaminated soil) on Vieques per year now: 90

Number of people who marched in San Juan, Puerto Rico, to protest the decree: 150,000

Number of "dummy" bombs fired from sea to land from April 27 to May 1, 2001, according to the commissioner of Vieques: 352

Number of missiles from air to land, during the same period: 168

Estimated number of protesters, including Vieques mayor Damaso Serrano, who were in the target range while Navy dropped bombs: 40 to 50

Number of fishing traps lost in those four days as a result of bombing: 600-700

Estimated loss of fishermen's income and property: $360,000

Estimated number of local fishermen affected: 52

Estimated amount paid by NATO allies to lease Vieques from the U.S. for target practice: $80 million per year

Amount offered Puerto Rico by President Clinton in January 2000 to continue the bombing for three more years: $40 million

Percentage above legal levels of environmental pollutants that the U.S. Navy has admitted to discharging: arsenic, 6.6; lead, 105; cadmium, 240

Diseases found to have higher rates in Vieques than on Puerto Rico's mainland: cancer, scleroderma, lupus, thyroid deficiencies, asthma

Odds that Viequenses will develop cancer as compared to other Puerto Ricans: 27 percent higher

Number of hospitals on Vieques: 0

Travel time to nearest hospital: one and a half hours by ferry

Number of hotels: 25

Number of civil disobedience camps that sprang up inside the target range after civilian David Sanes was killed by two 500-pound live bombs that missed their mark: 14

Number of months it took U.S. marshals to shut down the camps: 12

Total number of arrests since the bombing began: 1111

Number of arrests in the last two years, since the death of David Sanes: 500

Recent high-profile arrests: Reverend Al Sharpton, actor Edward James Olmos, environmental lawyer Robert F. Kennedy Jr., New York labor leader Dennis Rivera, Congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-ILL), Vieques mayor Serrano

Approximate cost of the one-page ad in The New York Times calling for an end to the bombing (signed by actor Benicio del Toro, singers Ricky Martin, José Feliciano, and Marc Anthony, baseball player Roberto Alomar, and other celebrities): $113,274

Number of Puerto Rican activists who climbed the Statue of Liberty to protest in November 2000: 11

Population of Puerto Ricans in NYC in 1990: 897,000

Members of Congress from New York City who were among the 110 who signed a letter in March 2001 urging President Bush to permanently end the bombing in Vieques: José Serrano, Nydia Velázquez, Charles Rangel, Ed Towns, Major Owens, Elliot Engel, Nita Lowey, Anthony D. Weiner, Gregory Meeks, Carolyn McCarthy, Joseph Crowley, Carolyn Maloney, Charles Schumer, and Hillary Clinton

Options voters in Vieques will be given in a referendum on the bombing this November: allow the U.S. Navy to resume the use of exploding bombs, for which the people of Vieques will receive $50 million in aid; or permit the Navy to use nonexploding bombs until 2003, after which it will leave the island

Option not available on the referendum: immediate cessation of all bombing


For moe information, go to http://www.puertorico-herald.org




Civil diobedience is a right when you have these numbers around and also they found 17 toxic waste dumps that the Navy says they will clean up NOW, why not all these years, now when they got caught!
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Old 2nd June 2001, 12:02
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Lets remember that Vieques is part of our Puerto Rico !!!


We can not allow people from far away to come and disrespect us as the navy has been doing for 60 years.
we are a beautiful people who believe in peace but we will not stand by and allow some one or any one to run over us without a fight.
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Old 25th November 2001, 18:12
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My personal opinion

I think there is one big problen in all this,maybe a few.
First of all the american goverment does not care of what we Puertoricans think.Why maybe because they think they are superior to us. are they? We've been taking all their attitude for to long and now we have to take their bombing?
We should end this once and for all!If they are so powerful why not bombing another place or buying some place to bomb,were no HUman beings live, cause remember Viequenses are human beings.I think we should keep marshing and taking civil disobidience actions untill we end this abuse.Are we afraid of the U.S army ? Im not! Are we afraid of the U.S. goverment? IM not! I encourage my Puertorican fellows to fight against abuse. Lets leave political parties out of this problem, and lets get together as Puertoriqueños! If they want WAR , WAR they will get?

P.S. DONT BE AFRAID. FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS
FUERZA,LEALTAD Y VOLUNTAD
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