I want to improve my English...

[Suki]

Originally posted by Stanley
Suki:

If you are pregnant you can name your kid Stanislao----- the shortest name in the world. Shorter than Nicasio or Casimiro.

If you are planning to get pregnant you must talk to Papetito about it and leave Ed alone.

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Suki: No, Stanley that is not it. LLLLLLOOOOOOOOLLLLLL. And if I had a kid it would not be Stanislao----lol.

No, it is something different. But, I am planning on leaving Ed alone. I hope he continues doing what he does, and I will do my thing. And that is it. I know when to call it quits. Ay, Stanley you make me laugh with your notions. Lol. Is that your name Stanislao?

Suki. (Still chuckling away).

[Eddier1]

Originally posted by Suki

Suki, I opine that since you found out that I was a communist, you intended always to call it quits with me. However, your intellectual curiosity may have gotten the best of your fighting with your emotions, and it directed your targeting towards me. Like, "I'll show that commie that he isn't going to lead the Boricuas towards that!" But you forgot that prior to Iglesias Padin introducing socialism to Puerto Rico with his Unionista Party, Puerto Rico was mired in the mud of the "fangitos". It is only since socialism with its programs that the fangito as such has been conquered. Many of my immediate ancestors in P.R. were supporters of the Unionist Party. So if you feel that I am an interloper, bringing foreign socialism to P.R., then you are dead wrong. You want this way with me, well, you can't have this way with me. But if for that reason, you want to call it quits with me on this forum, then 'no sweat'. I will continue doing my thing, and you will do your's even if you got to be a dominatrix to do it. And even if I have to be a revolutionary to do my thing, and prevent you from trying to dominate us. You got to be silly and awfully domineering to think you can change me at my age with all the experience I have under my belt.

Regards,
EddieR

[Suki]

[quote]Originally posted by Eddier1
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Originally posted by Suki

Suki, I opine that since you found out that I was a communist, you intended always to call it quits with me. However, your intellectual curiosity may have gotten the best of your fighting with your emotions, and it directed your targeting towards me. Like, "I'll show that commie that he isn't going to lead the Boricuas towards that!"
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Suki: Eddie you got me figured out wrong. If the Puerto Ricans go for communism I will be the first to go back to Puerto Rico and be happy of it, and I trust that if the island decides that is the future, I for one would be very pleased that a new way will come to be. Truly. No, as soon as I found out you were a communist I knew you were going to be intelligent and informed. And you have not disappointed me there. Oh, how my mother is going to chuckle at this opinion of yours. Eddie, I think I have been priveleged from the beginning to have gotten to inteact with you. And if you knew what I thought it is not "I'll show that commie that he isn't going to lead the Boricuas toward that!"--it was, "How I wish our leadership had the courage to cope with the island problems the way Eddie describes in his philosophy--with objectivity, truth, intelligence and experiences, and peaceful co-existance, and faith in Puerto Rican independence." I don't consider myself any way, shape or form a leader. Especially in politics. You, on the other hand are good at that, and will always have such a clear understanding of what is necessary in that vector. Siempre seras victorioso Eddie no solamente en la vida pero en tu objetividad. How, you never got what I am about no longer surprises me. Eddie, I have no doubts that the historical circumstances will favor the objective point of view.

But you forgot that prior to Iglesias Padin introducing socialism to Puerto Rico with his Unionista Party, Puerto Rico was mired in the mud of the "fangitos". It is only since socialism with its programs that the fangito as such has been conquered. Many of my immediate ancestors in P.R. were supporters of the Unionist Party. So if you feel that I am an interloper, bringing foreign socialism to P.R., then you are dead wrong.

Suki: Foreign socialism? No way. You are Boricua all the way. And with that solid sense of social responsibility you will never be an interloper. Chico, exito is all I want for you and yours. De veras. I always thought you an asset. Yautia, how did I ever come accross to my favorite Puerto Rican on pr.com as this?

You want this way with me, well, you can't have this way with me. But if for that reason, you want to call it quits with me on this forum, then 'no sweat'.

Suki: Way with you? Eddie, no one on earth can ever have their way with you. You won't allow that in a million years. Too fuerte de personalidad. I call it quits in the hopes of being a friend. You are such a realist. And I always had a small hope to be a friend and enjoy your intellect and your personality. But find that I can't seem to get past the way you think on a subconscious level about me. And so, I thought I must call it quits on that hope. That is what I meant. I don't consider myself trying to sway anyone on this site. I called it quits on someday seeing your face, and hearing your voice on the phone, and finally getting to know the real person behind the posts. I call it quits on those expectations. Now, I am just realizing, you got your duty to do. I respect it. Me, ay chico, I never considered myself leadership material in anyway. I am just a woman who loves to do cultural/creative work. And someday write creative things. I have no talent like you do for objective philosophies, and politics and leadership. I am a socialist a la Erich Fromm because I think it is what I truly believe in. That I would be in a leadership position. No. I am not cut out for that. I will work my butt off for a free Puerto Rico. And if the Communists get the leadership. I will cooperate and be happy to work for a better communist Puerto Rican society. I am sure many will leave the island then. Too many have little faith in an independent republic. But I have much faith in that. But, I am gonna go through the transition no matter what happens. And if you get the leadership position, I hope I can do something useful for your philosophy and political view. When the Puerto Ricans decide on that. That is not my way to be a leader (at least in politica). I am willing to do what I can do. Like an ordinary citizen, and I will sacrifice to make PR survive independence and come out of the fire (hopefully with decent thinkers like you are Eddie it won't be long). I have really enjoyed your virtues Senor Eddie. Keep up the excellent work.

I will continue doing my thing, and you will do your's even if you got to be a dominatrix to do it.
Suki: Dominatrix? Ay Eddie. No. No soy eso en un millon de annos. De verdad. How can I dominar alguien que el sistema ha intentado fastidiar and has lost the battle against trying to kill your fighting spirit? I think if something happens Puerto Rico needs men of experience in battle and who have wisdom and good values. No one else I can think of better than you for that. De verdad.

And even if I have to be a revolutionary to do my thing, and prevent you from trying to dominate us.

Suki: I would never attempt to dominate you guys--los comunistas--nunca. If you had to be a revolutionary Eddie and thought I was a threat would you hurt me? Cause I would rather die than hurt someone like you. To dominar or for any other power play reason. I aint about that Eddie. Never was. Never will be. You have made me terribly sad saying such a thing. I believe in socialism because it is just. Punto. I can't talk anymore. You have given me a tacon en la garganta.

You got to be silly and awfully domineering to think you can change me at my age with all the experience I have under my belt.

Suki: Oh, Eddie, I can't change you. When have I ever tried? All I wanted to do was be friends and learn from you. I have learned from you, and came out better from you. You don't want my freindship. And after reading this post, I realize how silly I was to think you might had just a little fondness for me as a plain human person. Adios, Eddie. Hope to read your thoughts in the future. Siempre seras un tesoro de vivencias, y de experiencias, y de informacion y de historia. Vida

[Stanley]

I will continue doing my thing, and you will do your's even if you got to be a dominatrix to do it.

Ed:

Actually, I think Suki is more of a submissive type wife. Like you say--- this is a vive. I do not see her as a ball buster kind of woman. She seems to have Papolito and you on a pedestal------- dominatrix do not behave in that manner.

[Eddier1]

[quote]Originally posted by Suki
[b]

Originally posted by Eddier1

Suki, I opine that since you found out that I was a communist, you intended always to call it quits with me. However, your intellectual curiosity may have gotten the best of your fighting with your emotions, and it directed your targeting towards me. Like, "I'll show that commie that he isn't going to lead the Boricuas towards that!"
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Suki: Eddie you got me figured out wrong. If the Puerto Ricans go for communism I will be the first to go back to Puerto Rico and be happy of it, and I trust that if the island decides that is the future, I for one would be very pleased that a new way will come to be. Truly. No, as soon as I found out you were a communist I knew you were going to be intelligent and informed. And you have not disappointed me there. Oh, how my mother is going to chuckle at this opinion of yours. Eddie, I think I have been priveleged from the beginning to have gotten to inteact with you. And if you knew what I thought it is not "I'll show that commie that he isn't going to lead the Boricuas toward that!"--it was, "How I wish our leadership had the courage to cope with the island problems the way Eddie describes in his philosophy--with objectivity, truth, intelligence and experiences, and peaceful co-existance, and faith in Puerto Rican independence." I don't consider myself any way, shape or form a leader. Especially in politics. You, on the other hand are good at that, and will always have such a clear understanding of what is necessary in that vector. Siempre seras victorioso Eddie no solamente en la vida pero en tu objetividad. How, you never got what I am about no longer surprises me. Eddie, I have no doubts that the historical circumstances will favor the objective point of view.

But you forgot that prior to Iglesias Padin introducing socialism to Puerto Rico with his Unionista Party, Puerto Rico was mired in the mud of the "fangitos". It is only since socialism with its programs that the fangito as such has been conquered. Many of my immediate ancestors in P.R. were supporters of the Unionist Party. So if you feel that I am an interloper, bringing foreign socialism to P.R., then you are dead wrong.

Suki: Foreign socialism? No way. You are Boricua all the way. And with that solid sense of social responsibility you will never be an interloper. Chico, exito is all I want for you and yours. De veras. I always thought you an asset. Yautia, how did I ever come accross to my favorite Puerto Rican on pr.com as this?

You want this way with me, well, you can't have this way with me. But if for that reason, you want to call it quits with me on this forum, then 'no sweat'.

Suki: Way with you? Eddie, no one on earth can ever have their way with you. You won't allow that in a million years. Too fuerte de personalidad. I call it quits in the hopes of being a friend. You are such a realist. And I always had a small hope to be a friend and enjoy your intellect and your personality. But find that I can't seem to get past the way you think on a subconscious level about me. And so, I thought I must call it quits on that hope. That is what I meant. I don't consider myself trying to sway anyone on this site. I called it quits on someday seeing your face, and hearing your voice on the phone, and finally getting to know the real person behind the posts. I call it quits on those expectations. Now, I am just realizing, you got your duty to do. I respect it. Me, ay chico, I never considered myself leadership material in anyway. I am just a woman who loves to do cultural/creative work. And someday write creative things. I have no talent like you do for objective philosophies, and politics and leadership. I am a socialist a la Erich Fromm because I think it is what I truly believe in. That I would be in a leadership position. No. I am not cut out for that. I will work my butt off for a free Puerto Rico. And if the Communists get the leadership. I will cooperate and be happy to work for a better communist Puerto Rican society. I am sure many will leave the island then. Too many have little faith in an independent republic. But I have much faith in that. But, I am gonna go through the transition no matter what happens. And if you get the leadership position, I hope I can do something useful for your philosophy and political view. When the Puerto Ricans decide on that. That is not my way to be a leader (at least in politica). I am willing to do what I can do. Like an ordinary citizen, and I will sacrifice to make PR survive independence and come out of the fire (hopefully with decent thinkers like you are Eddie it won't be long). I have really enjoyed your virtues Senor Eddie. Keep up the excellent work.

I will continue doing my thing, and you will do your's even if you got to be a dominatrix to do it.
Suki: Dominatrix? Ay Eddie. No. No soy eso en un millon de annos. De verdad. How can I dominar alguien que el sistema ha intentado fastidiar and has lost the battle against trying to kill your fighting spirit? I think if something happens Puerto Rico needs men of experience in battle and who have wisdom and good values. No one else I can think of better than you for that. De verdad.

And even if I have to be a revolutionary to do my thing, and prevent you from trying to dominate us.

Suki: I would never attempt to dominate you guys--los comunistas--nunca. If you had to be a revolutionary Eddie and thought I was a threat would you hurt me? Cause I would rather die than hurt someone like you. To dominar or for any other power play reason. I aint about that Eddie. Never was. Never will be. You have made me terribly sad saying such a thing. I believe in socialism because it is just. Punto. I can't talk anymore. You have given me a tacon en la garganta.

You got to be silly and awfully domineering to think you can change me at my age with all the experience I have under my belt.

Suki: Oh, Eddie, I can't change you. When have I ever tried? All I wanted to do was be friends and learn from you. I have learned from you, and came out better from you. You don't want my freindship. And after reading this post, I realize how silly I was to think you might had just a little fondness for me as a plain human person. Adios, Eddie. Hope to read your thoughts in the future. Siempre seras un tesoro de vivencias, y de experiencias, y de informacion y de historia. Vida

Suki said:
Suki: "Oh, Eddie, I can't change you. When have I ever tried? All I wanted to do was be friends and learn from you. I have learned from you, and came out better from you. You don't want my freindship. And after reading this post, I realize how silly I was to think you might had just a little fondness for me as a plain human person. Adios, Eddie. Hope to read your thoughts in the future. Siempre seras un tesoro de vivencias, y de experiencias, y de informacion y de historia. Vida"

Really you have learned from me, what? I spent considerable time explaining philosophically and politically our views of scientific socialism, and it was done at your request, because I never approached you to do that. You asked me to do that mentoring work. I spent long hours writing you on e-mail explaining our position from day one. And now you say you learned from it, but how can I accept that as true when you rejected scientific socialism, and began a rebuttal of it with lots of questions, and evasions. You IMHO were never serious about learning anything from me with respect to the subject matter of scientific socialism. And so how could I ever consider you to be a camarada or 'friend' like many of the women who are camaradas in the world, and are considered by us to be true treasures of Marxism, Leninism, Mao tse Tung thought? You instead offer not to accept me as a friend on that basis, but instead query me as to my "real" being as a human being. You wanted to speak to me on the telephone, to accept samples of your cooking sent to a P.O. Box number, and even to pick up and go to Colorado to visit you! And all this after making clear to me that you, because of your faith in the exotic mysticism of Hinduism, could never accept scientific socialism or communism with its atheistic principles. You knew that was going to be your response even before you engaged me to be your mentor in communist philosophy. No..umm no, you are not being ingenuous in all of this reaction to my latest post. Moreover, you say now that you would support a communist Isle Nacion de Puerto Rico; do you seriously given all that has transpired between us, really believe that I would fall for such disingenuous affirmation? No way!
And now you say that you have a tacon in your throat about all of this, well that is mild with regard to what you suggest in the question posed:"I would never attempt to dominate you guys--los comunistas--nunca. If you had to be a revolutionary Eddie and thought I was a threat would you hurt me?" Oh boy!!!, you must think that we commies are beasts or animales brutos if you believe that Suki. Must be all the subliminal projections that have flooded you for years in the Bourgeois Media, which is all hype about us, with just a tiny grain of truth to make it go down for you. It is like a.r./el jib calling me a supporter of murdering women and children because some of them got caught in the crossfire in the Venezuela fracas that tried to bring about a coup against the legally elected President Hugo Chavez. Such hype, stated or subliminal is all a bunch of damned lies about us. I remember the catastrophe that happened to the Good Doctor and Communist friend, Dr. Salvador Allende in Chile, and the world wide tragedy that happened to Dr. Ernesto 'Che' Guevara in Bolivia. No, we have to defend ourselves against such things ever happening again. That is all I am saying, and so there is nothing personal about you in all that I said. I am confident that we have the true theory, and a love of it that is based on reason and social responsibility and not subjective feelings. In short, not "love" soap opera style, but AGAPE CONSCIENCE AND REASON BASED that will prevent any miscarriages of justice and violations of our freedom with respect to our Sovereingty or Independence in Puerto Rico. Don't put yourself before all of that Suki. And if friendship for me is based on social realism, and not subjective feelings like you display, please remember it is because for well over a half a century I have been the new man of communism, and not a wimp dominated by a woman.

TAKE CARE, SUKI, AND WHEREVER YOU GO, REMEMBER I WILL ALWAYS LEAVE THE LIGHT ON FOR YOU!

HACIA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE BORICUAS, JUNTOS VENCEREMOS!
Soy Puertorriqueno y Punto; e Realista Social.
EddieR

[Suki]

I think all this stems from the fact that you thought I had made up my mind to not be a scientific socialist from the beginning. Truth is Eddie, I wanted to understand more about that philosophy, because I am a person who is interested in learning more. Mentor for me is a person who informs and teaches and shares with people who are younger than they are. You have. I learned more about it. Mission accomplished. Do I agree with all of it 100%. I can't. Simple as that. And you would really be angry at me if I declared myself one without being an Orthodox Communist. I can guarantee you that. Plus, I know you won't ever believe this but I had some experiences (that I can't share) within my other convictions that made that hard for me to do. I can't share it with you Eddie. Plus, I need a level of trust to give up a lifetime of something meaningful to me, for something different. You don't trust. Without that I can't do it. Without trust and love, I can't change even if I wanted to. People who I feel don't trust or love me, but want me to change for them. I can't do it Eddie. I have been too spoiled by men in my family who give me trust and love and let me change if I need to. Plus, this medium just is not strong enough for transformation. It just is not. I got to see your cara, know who you are and where your coming from. You think "I trust she will read the material and then change! Based on intellectual soundness and truth. Objective truth." If that is all it takes for people to change then hell, Puerto Rico should be and independent country RIGHT NOW! But that is not the reality (for now).

Oh, Eddie you and I have such different freaking experiences. You have been through the fires of war, and sacrifices required of living under tough and difficult conditions that I can only imagine, but probably don't have an inkling about at all. I, the same as you, am a human being. A sum of experiences and thoughts and living within a social context. Oh Eddie, if I have made you waste your time. And you wanted me to be something I can't be.......I APOLOGIZE. I just wanted freindship. You might think it disingenous. And hard to believe. But yes, a bright person like you made me want to be friends and learn about so many things in life, which I did not have experiences in. You were a mentor after all. And a fine one. I just miscalculated what you expected of me. I thought you knew you had said to me you did not believe in love or trust, and I did, and as such our philosophies were different and so, what we had in common would be learning (mainly my learning from you new things). I also had to take time to read the things and they are not light reads. They are things that require time and dedication and patience. I wanted to do the reading and reflection. But when I had a query you said, " take to it like a duck to water! You either know right away or you don't." Or something like that.

You wanted me to become a fellow comunista. I can't do that on line. I can't. I wanted to understand what it is all about. I have been exposed to socialism my whole life. And Marxist theory. But, neither of my parents were purists like you are Eddie. And I will have you know, you are one dedicated one. And a good one too. NO!! I don't think you capable of hurting me....but what did you mean by that line? Of I will do what is necessary? How was I suppose to interpret that? Necessary for what? Why does this have to be such a heavy confrontation. Why can't I drag you to Colorado and just enjoy your presence? I know why now. But then I thought I have met the most interesting human being. Full of life, experiences, information, intelligence and he is Puerto Rican to boot!! What a joy! There was no Machiavellian plot of any sort!! I have no precalculated plans of X,Y, Z. I am just your average Suki who has enjoyed an extraordinary Eddier1 on pr.com.

I think you have been around people Eddie who may have been real bad folk. With ill intent. And you have a mindset because of it. Yet you continue to be honorable. Eres descomunalmente valiente en seguir intentando creyendo en la gente bajo ese fardo. So you think I believe in some soap opera. I don't think so. Love is what got me through my trauma with the US gov't and with my father's death and my mother's illness and with coping with my husband's dead parents and his sense of desolation. Love got me through it Eddie. And trust did too. Strength, and conviction and dedication in your philosophy got you through your stuff Eddie.

Eddie, if PR becomes communist do you think I would consider you my enemy because my style of socialism did not win out? No, Eddie. I would be happy we were independent and through democratic means the people of la isla nacion chose who they chose. Again, you got me figured out wrong. I told you long ago, I could never be your enemy. Never. But, I accept people for who they are. Not for what I want them to be. You only accept fellow communists as freinds and communist women as treasures. All others are moot or I don't know what. I can't cope with that kind of exclusivity. Human beings are too varied and there is too much diversity of views out there for me to think I can make them go my way or I won't associate on a friendship level with them. Life is too short to be bending our fellow human beings to our will. Keep your eyes on the prize Eddie. United front of Independentistas. A small group but if united in that one goal--good things come from it. Once independence arrives and the Communists convince the pueblo--hey, Hacia la Victoria Siempre. There is no exclusion in my heart Eddie. I will associate with all human beings. Might not agree with a lot of what they believe in. But hey. I open the circle and let them in. I KNOW you believe in your camaradas and your hermanos y hermanas of your ideology. I think they are one smart, sharp group of people. But I aint going to lie and say I am an atheist, etc. just to fit in with them. I got to follow my experiences. I had some that sure made my 'objective' side reconsider. That is as far as I can go there. I am going to be respaldandolos if you win. That I can say with 100% conviction. If you all think I am an idiot for not agreeing with you guys on such things as religion and certain parts of dialectical thought. So be it. Oh, Eddie you truly think I was playing a game or had some kind of agenda with you from day one. Man, it goes to show you don't know me. I never have an agenda with people. I am not that kind of person. And only people who know me know I am telling you the truth. Yautia knows what I just said is la pura verdad, you don't. Can't change your 'vibes', I can only be true to myself. Just ignore me. And keep on keeping on. I wanted to be friends, spoil you rotten, get to know you better and listen to all your intelligence and knowledge. You don't trust my motivations with you. I am no longer surprised. I call it quits on trying to get you to just let me be a friend. I would have loved to have a visit or a call or whatever. What is my motivation Eddie? HUMAN contact, connection and affection. Simple crap like that. Fellow Puertorriqueno socialist while I live in Colorado, USA where there aren't that many Puerto Ricans around I can talk to, that can even understand my simple childhood vignettes. I have been too long in this state. And mi vida is starting to tell me I need to leave to Latin America soon. La sangre me llama.

Oh, I WILL ALWAYS LEAVE MY LIGHT ON FOR YOU. EDDIE.

SUKI.

[Edited by Suki on 23rd June 2003 at 07:18]

[Suki]

It has been two years almost, I think in a couple of months it will be two years. Never would have thought I would have hung around this long. But, I realize, I built relationships in here that I appreciate greatly.

Eddie, again you are a reserved one. And you come off so judgemental that I think most people who would like to have relationships with you are put off by your judgements and your reserve. Also, I think the kinds of things you went through in life shaped who you are. Only a truly intelligent man living in the circumstances you did in the 1930's and so on, could have understood the Scient. Socialist philosophy and seen the solution there. Los brutos, ni hablar. Lol. If I came off as having rebuttals, I was simply trying to get you to teach me your point of view.

My mother thinks I need to stop hoping you will open up and accept a garden variety socialist like me, who just wants to do cultural projects and write stories and novels creatively with no bad intent and a deep dedication to understanding human beings from all walks of life. Like Native Americans, African Americans, Asians of all sorts, other Latin Americans like beautiful Iluminado and others and going through this life amazed at the beauty in many thoughts and points of view. You said in your youth you went through a period in which you thought of that, but then knew with all your conviction that only the true Scientific Socialist way was the way. And you say lovely things, like all humans are communists in the depths of their hearts, and if they look at it, they will see the Red Dawn. If that is true what you say Eddie and you believe it, I am a human being and so I share your Red Dawn. Unless you think the Red Dawn should be shared with only those who officially agree with your philosophy? Che was screwed over and betrayed by a Communist Party member. And I know you know there are some who are power brokers and you don't trust anyone anyway. If you don't trust anyone anyway. How do you think you are gonna get people to be part of your ideology? Intellectual force and conviction works with some people. But los retardados mentales have taught me that intellect is not necessarily the most important human virtue to have a successful life.

I am finally getting a sketch of what kinds of pressures shaped the diamond I happen to know as Eddier1. And understanding is upon me. It just makes me rail against the injustices of life that since I am understanding those pressures, I am realizing, freindship with you is gonna be mission impossible. And I hate missing opportunity for fine friendships. Truly fine friendships.

I got to let my dream of having you as a 'freind' of some sort go. Let you do your duty. And never interfere with requests to interact anymore. I got to do it, out of respect for you. And I got to be a realist.

Guaili, and I understand each other nearly perfectly well. Even though he is different than I. And I think he and I have the same opinion about you. Eres buena gente.

Well, I guess this is the end. Maybe someday you will realize I had no ulterior motives or anything of that nature. Just a person. Your average Suki.

I am seeing my heart do what it always does--expand. What a fine experience it all was. I am scared to ask Eddie? Was it something a little positive for you too? I hope so. If not, I apologize from the bottom of my heart. Y pido la despedida.

ADDENDUM

What have I learned from you, you ask? I think you deserve a very thorough answer there. And here it comes. I read Gracchus, in fact I kept the book and paid for it from the DPL. I got to understand the origins of communist thought. I read Mao and his theories of why liberals and other non-communists were detrimental to building a true communist society. On the horrors of the old system under the Dynasties and trapped by ancient class systems and exploitations. Of the fight they had in the Long March against the Imperialists. Of the horribly high price the Chinese Red Army had to pay in human toll to be able to try to break the bonds of so many centuries of ingrained cultural modes of thought that perpetuated oppressive practices.
On the Russian scene I read and reread because of you Eddie. The Communist Manifesto. And Russian history. The obscenity of the incredibly exaggerated opulence of the Russian elite prior to the Revolution. And how much los rusos had to sacrifice to stop the Nazis in WWII. Millions upon millions of dead bodies, dead of hunger, cold, superior German machinery. I asked myself what kept them going? Why continue to struggle when the losses were so staggering. El Nuevo hombre was the answer. And yes you are right. El Nuevo Hombre is a taker of risk, and confronts anything that threatens blatant materially and nature based truths. Yes, from Byzantium times to Putin. I revisited that and know all is in tumult now, but people with that history will always have a core of iron and steel to fall back on.

What else did I learn from you? Your concern is worth many other's high declarations of love. You are a no-nonsense person and your concerns does not stem from notions of love. But of seeing society as a way of finding freedom from those influences and values that keep people over the barrel, behind the eight ball and from struggling and fighting for what is their birthright. To be free. Free from constant exploitation, selfishness, individuality as the solution to 'needs' and the superstitious traps of dogmatic religionism. That oppresses people and keeps them from realizing they need to face their damn fears about their own ephimeral existences and mortality and concentrate on getting their consciousness (level of) where it should be--helping others get out of the hole. Economically, socially and intellectually.

Eddie, you have given me some of your steel in thinking. That is what I have learned. I am an artist/cultural anthro person. And not like you. So the steel you gave me will be manifest in another way. To each their grain of sand.

I hope you learned only one thing from me. Emotions and expressing them with love and concern and sharing that with your fellow beings---influences them in powerful ways. For the good of society. If you think it does not. I won't be surprised. But, I am truly in your debt.

SUKI.



[Edited by Suki on 23rd June 2003 at 21:16]