I want to improve my English...

[Eddier1]

Originally posted by Suki
It has been two years almost, I think in a couple of months it will be two years. Never would have thought I would have hung around this long. But, I realize, I built relationships in here that I appreciate greatly.

Eddie, again you are a reserved one. And you come off so judgemental that I think most people who would like to have relationships with you are put off by your judgements and your reserve. Also, I think the kinds of things you went through in life shaped who you are. Only a truly intelligent man living in the circumstances you did in the 1930's and so on, could have understood the Scient. Socialist philosophy and seen the solution there. Los brutos, ni hablar. Lol. If I came off as having rebuttals, I was simply trying to get you to teach me your point of view.

My mother thinks I need to stop hoping you will open up and accept a garden variety socialist like me, who just wants to do cultural projects and write stories and novels creatively with no bad intent and a deep dedication to understanding human beings from all walks of life. Like Native Americans, African Americans, Asians of all sorts, other Latin Americans like beautiful Iluminado and others and going through this life amazed at the beauty in many thoughts and points of view. You said in your youth you went through a period in which you thought of that, but then knew with all your conviction that only the true Scientific Socialist way was the way. And you say lovely things, like all humans are communists in the depths of their hearts, and if they look at it, they will see the Red Dawn. If that is true what you say Eddie and you believe it, I am a human being and so I share your Red Dawn. Unless you think the Red Dawn should be shared with only those who officially agree with your philosophy? Che was screwed over and betrayed by a Communist Party member. And I know you know there are some who are power brokers and you don't trust anyone anyway. If you don't trust anyone anyway. How do you think you are gonna get people to be part of your ideology? Intellectual force and conviction works with some people. But los retardados mentales have taught me that intellect is not necessarily the most important human virtue to have a successful life.

I am finally getting a sketch of what kinds of pressures shaped the diamond I happen to know as Eddier1. And understanding is upon me. It just makes me rail against the injustices of life that since I am understanding those pressures, I am realizing, freindship with you is gonna be mission impossible. And I hate missing opportunity for fine friendships. Truly fine friendships.

I got to let my dream of having you as a 'freind' of some sort go. Let you do your duty. And never interfere with requests to interact anymore. I got to do it, out of respect for you. And I got to be a realist.

Guaili, and I understand each other nearly perfectly well. Even though he is different than I. And I think he and I have the same opinion about you. Eres buena gente.

Well, I guess this is the end. Maybe someday you will realize I had no ulterior motives or anything of that nature. Just a person. Your average Suki.

I am seeing my heart do what it always does--expand. What a fine experience it all was. I am scared to ask Eddie? Was it something a little positive for you too? I hope so. If not, I apologize from the bottom of my heart. Y pido la despedida.

ADDENDUM

What have I learned from you, you ask? I think you deserve a very thorough answer there. And here it comes. I read Gracchus, in fact I kept the book and paid for it from the DPL. I got to understand the origins of communist thought. I read Mao and his theories of why liberals and other non-communists were detrimental to building a true communist society. On the horrors of the old system under the Dynasties and trapped by ancient class systems and exploitations. Of the fight they had in the Long March against the Imperialists. Of the horribly high price the Chinese Red Army had to pay in human toll to be able to try to break the bonds of so many centuries of ingrained cultural modes of thought that perpetuated oppressive practices.
On the Russian scene I read and reread because of you Eddie. The Communist Manifesto. And Russian history. The obscenity of the incredibly exaggerated opulence of the Russian elite prior to the Revolution. And how much los rusos had to sacrifice to stop the Nazis in WWII. Millions upon millions of dead bodies, dead of hunger, cold, superior German machinery. I asked myself what kept them going? Why continue to struggle when the losses were so staggering. El Nuevo hombre was the answer. And yes you are right. El Nuevo Hombre is a taker of risk, and confronts anything that threatens blatant materially and nature based truths. Yes, from Byzantium times to Putin. I revisited that and know all is in tumult now, but people with that history will always have a core of iron and steel to fall back on.

What else did I learn from you? Your concern is worth many other's high declarations of love. You are a no-nonsense person and your concerns does not stem from notions of love. But of seeing society as a way of finding freedom from those influences and values that keep people over the barrel, behind the eight ball and from struggling and fighting for what is their birthright. To be free. Free from constant exploitation, selfishness, individuality as the solution to 'needs' and the superstitious traps of dogmatic religionism. That oppresses people and keeps them from realizing they need to face their damn fears about their own ephimeral existences and mortality and concentrate on getting their consciousness (level of) where it should be--helping others get out of the hole. Economically, socially and intellectually.

Eddie, you have given me some of your steel in thinking. That is what I have learned. I am an artist/cultural anthro person. And not like you. So the steel you gave me will be manifest in another way. To each their grain of sand.

I hope you learned only one thing from me. Emotions and expressing them with love and concern and sharing that with your fellow beings---influences them in powerful ways. For the good of society. If you think it does not. I won't be surprised. But, I am truly in your debt.

SUKI.



[Edited by Suki on 23rd June 2003 at 21:16]

Suki, didn't I say that you are very good at writing, and that you can spin an ambience around data that is riveting?
Well if I didn't say it just like that, I say it now. If you were a commie, you would most certainly be considered for the post of a political officer when writing stuff like you did about communism and my connections with it. And I wouldn't be the least surprised that you would be cited one day with a medal as a Heroine of Socialist Labor for your writing abilities and work. But then, I am thunderstruck by the thought, no...Suki will not become a scientific socialist, she is bound for many years to the erotic mysticism of Hinduism, and she could write something positive about it, and even about the practice of 'scouree'(not sure how to spell that Indian word) and find some way to continue accepting her Hinduism and rejecting scientific socialism. You "love" all types of people and want to be their friend, you want to "open" them up to their supposedly 'real selves'. Yet when it comes to Hindus who follow scouree, and grab hold of ladies who are in mourning for their dead husbands, and then built a pyre and FORCE them upon the flaming pyre, so that they will be incinerated and burned horribly to death, you have no qualms about that but continue being a Hindu. Forget about the erotic stuff I saw in India; let's focus on the inhuman bestial actions of your fellow Hindu religionists. Yes, yes, as a writer you will find a way to whitewash all of this that will boggle the minds of those dedicated to reason, conscience, and social responsibility, i.e. to the peaceful and harmonious core values of those, like us commies, who discovered that the mind is a fountain whose springs are clear and refreshing, and give us all the Peaceful Coexistence and Harmony we will ever require in life. Of that I have not the slightest doubt!

Regards,
EddieR
p.s. is this the post you were asking confirmation that I had read it? Or was it the former post of your's? Anyhow, you got my response, at least.

[Suki]

Eddie,
The horrors of the practices of hinduism traditional style that you mention is true. I detest that. That kind of religious dogmatism. You are absolutely right to not see it with good eyes. I am not going to try to tell you what my religious convictions consist of. Cuz you are not going to read the literature or the sect I belong to. And without that background my religion will never make sense to you. Or who knows if ever? You can get miffed with my Vieques hardcore protestor Auntie, who along with many other things, influenced my path. I think if you would have gotten a hold of me younger, it just might have been effective.

But, I will tell you this. I like your bliss of freedom. And if it weren't for my 'mystical' experiences, that have no materially based explanation, and forced me to think in metaphysics, that have affected my thinking deeply. I think I would have been a scientific socialist. I am glad you got your clear fountain. I guess I will be persona no entendida por ti. Never underestimate the influence of your objectivities over time Eddie. That is my final thought.

Suki.

Thanks.

[Eddier1]

Suki said:

"That is my final thought"

So you detest those ghoulish practices of Hinduism, eh. But you are NOT horrified by them, are you. And that you are looking for anyway you can to close shop with me is obvious.
It sounds so eerie the way you are expressing yourself lately, Suki. Like you are haunted by a ghost, or perhaps, even the ghosts of the millions of ladies who were immolated by members of the Hindu religion which you are for so many, many years a part of. A religion with a history like that, I doubt seriously that anything on the face of this earth, or in the totality of the Universe, can ever really reform. Vaya!, toda esa historia me parece como la comida sangriente de las vampiras y vampiros. Eso no tiene nada, pero absolutamente NADA, que ver con nuestra Isla-Nacion de Puerto Rico y nuestra Cultura Boricua. Hasta la vista; y que las apariciones de esas mujeres fastidiadas de India, no tratan de comunicar mas contigo sobre el internaay. Recuerdo como uno broto en el net con un mensaje de sangrefria para ti, e esa mensaje no tenia senas de donde venia, ni IP o doquiera technica alguna. Tu me da lastima Suki. Que misterio horrendo para ti. Otra vez digo hasta la vista Asuquita.

Yo me quedo anclau; no ire a ningun lao; la lampara esta prendida!

[Suki]

Originally posted by Eddier1

Suki said:

"That is my final thought"

So you detest those ghoulish practices of Hinduism, eh. But you are NOT horrified by them, are you. And that you are looking for anyway you can to close shop with me is obvious.
It sounds so eerie the way you are expressing yourself lately, Suki. Like you are haunted by a ghost, or perhaps, even the ghosts of the millions of ladies who were immolated by members of the Hindu religion which you are for so many, many years a part of. A religion with a history like that, I doubt seriously that anything on the face of this earth, or in the totality of the Universe, can ever really reform. Vaya!, toda esa historia me parece como la comida sangriente de las vampiras y vampiros. Eso no tiene nada, pero absolutamente NADA, que ver con nuestra Isla-Nacion de Puerto Rico y nuestra Cultura Boricua. Hasta la vista; y que las apariciones de esas mujeres fastidiadas de India, no tratan de comunicar mas contigo sobre el internaay. Recuerdo como uno broto en el net con un mensaje de sangrefria para ti, e esa mensaje no tenia senas de donde venia, ni IP o doquiera technica alguna. Tu me da lastima Suki. Que misterio horrendo para ti. Otra vez digo hasta la vista Asuquita.

Yo me quedo anclau; no ire a ningun lao; la lampara esta prendida!

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Suki: All religions have totally distorted practices. For you a Scientific Socialist that is orthodox, all religions are equally odious. You are not going to read the texts. If you did you would realize there is no dogmatism, superstition or traps in the religion I practice. And they don't try to recruit people into the ranks or even try to spread the word. It is all about down to earth, daily practices that you probably do as well, such as exercise, think deeply, naturopathic remedies and be concerned for other human beings making sure they change things they do that are keeping them from transforming society into something better. NO pyres, death, exploitation, inequality, and or ghosts running around. Developing strength of the mind, clarity of thought. So, one can place one's self into another's shoes. And realize our common humanity. That is the essence of my religion. You can take it or leave it Eddie. Do unto others as you would like to be done unto you. How I think about God. I have only shared that with Conciencia. Why him? The reason is he is not as judgemental as you are. But out of all the Puerto Ricans in pr.com. I love you the most Eddier1 (that sweet platonic love, with a touch of tenderness, lots of respect, and tolerance). And you don't believe in that. Nor ever will. There is the problem. You are the warrior at heart. And you remind me of Arjuna. There have been and are many places in Puerto Rico that practice Yoga of all kinds now. In gringolandia they have a lot of places. Atheists practice it, Roman Catholics practice it, Protestant Holy Rollers do, etc. It is not really a religion at all. But since you won't ask the questions to find out what the hell it is all about. You keep busting out stereotypes of the worst of religion. I hate the worst of religion. DOGMA. NO CRITICAL thinking. Instilling FEAR. Subservience. Hipocrisy. Lies. AND ABOVE ALL KEEPING PEOPLE IN MENTAL PRISON. Yes, Eddier1, I hate all those aspects of religion. My religion emphasizes the opposite. You will disagree. But since you don't do the reading (if you were changed your strategy you would read the stuff) then attack it. But you won't do that will you? You are too set in your stereotypes. I don't even know your last name Eddier1. But in terms of being EL Nuevo Hombre, you are victorious. I don't care if you are an atheist. I truly don't worry about your eternal soul, or if you are baptized. OR NOT. I have the absolute conviction, that whatever you do now, you are going to come out winning no matter what. Because, I think in spite of all your flaws, and human imperfections--you got YOUR BLISS OF FREEDOM. And no one is gonna take that clear fountain from you!! Ya tienes la victoria siempre. And I am absolutely sure of it.

Te doy lastima? Why? I am happy, recently healthy. I am in love (the real kind of love) with my husband of almost twenty years. My mother is fine. I had the fortune of having many people I care for bring richness to my life. I have been blessed in many arenas of life. The proof in the pudding of that bendicion, is I got to meet you in some website too!! You have been a big bendicion. Go ahead curse me, and say I am whatever. Cuz all you are gonna find in me for you is this Eddier1--y con esta cancion me despido.

POR QUIEN MERECE AMOR

Te molesta mi amor,
mi amor de juventud,
y mi amor es un arte en virtud.
Te molesta mi amor,
mi amor sin antifaz,
y mi amor es un arte de paz.

Mi amor es una prenda encantada,
es mi extensa morada,
es mi espacio sin fin,
Mi amor no precisa fronteras,
como la primavera
no prefiere jardin.

Mi amor no es amor de mercado,
porque un amor sangrado
no es amor de lucrar.
Mi amor es todo cuando tengo,
si lo niego o lo vendo
para que respirar?

Te molesta mi amor,
mi amor de humanidad,
y mi amor es un arte en su edad.
Te molesta mi amor,
mi amor de surtidor,
y mi amor es un arte mayor.

Y mi amor es no es un amor de uno solo,
sino alma de todo
lo que urge sanar.
Mi amor es un amor de abajo
que el de venir me trajo
para hacerlo empinar.

Mi amor, el mas enamorado,
es el mas olvidado
en su antiguo dolor.
Mi amor abre pecho a la muerte
y despena su suerte
por un tiempo mejor.

Mi amor, este amor aguerrido,
es un sol encendido,
Por quien merece amor.

Silvio Rodriguez (a cubano and a marxist too)

And when I write my novels Eddier1, and if this motita de polvo can just do what she likes to do to serve other human beings, you should be aware, I am not going to write about Hinduism. No. I will write about El Nuevo Hombre, and the most beautiful man in the story is going to be someone who believes in bliss of freedom. Does not trust or love. But who is the best human being any one could meet. Is bitter like the acerola but so good for you with tons of Vitamin C to fight infection with (lol), and has been through hell and back, but continues to have honor, and truth. Y esa es la pura neta. Adios Eddie.

Suki.

P.S. And I know you are a suspicious sort. No, I never had a hidden agenda with you. Just friendship. I gave up on that. Knowing your character a little better. And your dedication. Again, I leave my light on for you too. Now, you can go on and say something terrible about my (supposed)religion, the one you think I supposedly follow in your head. For I think it is not personal anymore. But ideological. And you are always true to your convictions. Just as I must be true to mine.

[Edited by Suki on 25th June 2003 at 04:13]

[Eddier1]

Well, you proved what I said, THAT YOU WOULD FIND SOME WAY TO WHITEWASH THE HORRENDOUS FLAWS OF HINDUISM AND YOUR INCIPIENT, NOT SO HIDDEN BENEATH THE SURFACE, ANTICATHOLICISM. What makes you think I am sooooo....judgmental, huh. Or that I haven't studied the texts of the Baghavat Gita, and all the Buddhist texts too? NO YOU ARE THE ONE WHO PRESUMES AND JUDGES, LEFT AND RIGHT, ABOUT OTHERS, THAT YOU WON'T ACCEPT THEM FOR THEIR CREDOS OR CORE VALUES BUT MUST PROBE AND TRY TO RIP THEM OPEN AND FIND THEIR REAL SELVES. WHO ARE YOU TO BE SO CONDESCENDING TOWARDS OTHERS WHO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU? You jump down our throats all the time, like you have some mysterious inside track to wisdom, but then you judge others, but don't judge the flaws nor the Hindus that have you by your tail all these years. YOU ARE A FOOL WHEN IT COMES TO RELIGION, AND NO I DON'T THINK ALL RELIGIONS ARE "odius" or that all rituals and liturgies are "odius" like you say. NO, I THINK YOUR SCOUREE RELIGION IS ODIOUS AND THAT YOU AND YOUR WACKED-OUT HINDUS ARE MURDERERS, PUNTO Y SE ACABO! YOU GOT TO BE HUECO IN THE HEAD, THAT WHEN YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT SUCH THINGS AS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE iNDIAN LADIES, YOU DIDN'T RUN THE HELL OUT OF THAT RELIGION FOR HIGH GROUND. YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE ME PUKE, BUT YOU WON'T SUCCEED. NO YOU ARE GIVING ME THE BEST EVIDENCE I REQUIRE TO PROVE THAT MY VIBES ABOUT YOU ARE 100% VALID. BYE DRAGON LADY!; AND YOUR MAMA ISN'T A CRAZY OLD WOMAN LIKE YOU SAID TO THE WHOLE WORLD VIA THE INTERNET. SHE PROBABLY GOT YOUR NUMBER, BUT SIMPLY WANTS TO CONTINUE HUMORING YOUR MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY CRIPPLED MIND. SHE'S NICE; AND YOU TRY, BUT YOU ARE NOT NICE! NO WAY!!!

Hacia la Victoria Siempre Boricuas, Venceremos!
Soy Puertorriqueno y Punto; y Realista Social.
EddieR
p.s. what I meant by necessary in your pathetic case of domineering is that we will give you a rest if you tried to dominate us scientific socialists. Yes you can be sure of that.

[Suki]

Originally posted by Eddier1

Well, you proved what I said, THAT YOU WOULD FIND SOME WAY TO WHITEWASH THE HORRENDOUS FLAWS OF HINDUISM AND YOUR INCIPIENT, NOT SO HIDDEN BENEATH THE SURFACE, ANTICATHOLICISM.

Suki: Eddie, I studied different religions for years. I have no hatred in my heart for any of them. I think human beings have their beliefs, and yes religious thought has its huge pitfalls and failures. I am not anti-catholic. How can I be? I married a man who was an ex Roman Catholic and is a socialist. Very much like you in some ways. Yes Hinduism is seriously flawed. I did not learn it in India. I learned to do breathing exercises in Bayamon. Lol. With hermano Bonifacio who practiced yoga since the 1940's in Bayamon. I do not identify with Scouree or anything oppressive. I don't believe in the dowry system, or the extremely sexist practices where almost all fetuses aborted in India are girl fetuses. I don't believe in inequality and injustice. I hope you Social Scientists grow there in a big way and help eradicate all that nonsense. Now, what makes you think I am in favor of all that? Being anti war, anti abortion and anti death penalty? It does not make sense for you to conclude I would be in favor of all that. Again, to tell you the truth Eddier1, I only take those practices that make common sense like Meditation, yoga, and singing songs and only deal with that which is uplifting. In fact the Bhagavad Gita and the Mahabarata are not required texts in our sect. And Jesus Christ is included in studying how to live a decent life. Would you see me as more 'acceptable to you' if I renounced "Hinduism" and declared myself non-religious in general. Many social problems in India and with Hindus stem from what you are very aware of: Socioeconomic inequality and sexism, class and caste system, stark poverty, etc. etc. ALL THE ILLS of many third world nations. Religious doctrines that oppress people I find very repulsive. If I thought YOGA oppressed me in any way. I would never practice it. Instead it lowers my blood sugar, makes me breathe better, keeps me flexible and my mind clear. I only learned it through the Puerto RIcans not the Indians. And they very much practice it out of loving the practical benefits. Now, Joseph Campbell explored many aspects of Hinduism. And if you would like to point those out and discuss them someday I would highly enjoy that. I do believe in God. Why? Because I think there is too much intelligence behind nature to think there is not some kind of force out there which we are a part of. That is it.

sooooo....judgmental, huh. Or that I haven't studied the texts of the Baghavat Gita, and all the Buddhist texts too?

Suki: I am sorry if I misjudged you on that. But if you check out Bambina's recent replies in open board and politics you will find she feels judged by you. She is an independentista. And I would rather have her feel welcome here than that Nameless one who constantly spreads lies about you.

NO YOU ARE THE ONE WHO PRESUMES AND JUDGES, LEFT AND RIGHT, ABOUT OTHERS, THAT YOU WON'T ACCEPT THEM FOR THEIR CREDOS OR CORE VALUES BUT MUST PROBE AND TRY TO RIP THEM OPEN AND FIND THEIR REAL SELVES.

Suki: I have posted a bunch of posts above. Find a line in there in which I don't accept your credos and core values Eddie? I accept you completely. Unlike others who want to separate you from your philosophy and politics. I don't. I accept the whole package. I don't want you to change. Ever. I just wanted to share ideas with you and somehow feel connected as a person. I think you don't accept me. I can't control that. But I accept you. I always have. When have I ever said "Eddie--drop the communism. Become religious?" WHEN? Raulg said drop the communism. So do a lot of people. I don't. I respect your core values. Always have always will.

WHO ARE YOU TO BE SO CONDESCENDING TOWARDS OTHERS WHO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU?

Suki: Eddie did you interpret everything I wrote to you as being condescending? No. No. No. I think you are wonderful just the way you are. What do you want Eddie? Do you just want us to communicate once in a while in polite exchanges? With respect as mutual independentistas? That is what I want. I DON'T REJECT YOUR PHILOSOPHY EDDIE. I DON'T REJECT YOU. I JUST THOUGHT AND STILL THINK YOU WILL NEVER ACCEPT ME AND THAT YOU REJECT ME AS A PERSON. SO TO SAVE MYSELF THE PAIN OF EXPECTATIONS THAT WILL NEVER BE FULFILLED OF BEING SOMEONE WHOM YOU LIKE TO COMMUNICATE WITH. I THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE YOU A WAY OUT. I NEVER VOLUNTARILY WOULD GIVE UP MY RELATIONSHIP TO YOU. I am just getting rid of me wanting friendship with you. Not that I would not communicate with you. I love to communicate with you. Why else always go through this trouble and time? You are the one who judges me as some mental cripple, and call me dragon lady and cabeza hueca and so many other things over time. I try to think maybe it does not reflect that Eddie hates me. But after a while what else am I to think? Do you hate me Eddie? Or find me a repulsive person? A bad person? Or is it just my not being able to commit to Scientific socialism 100% that you do not like? WHy do you want me to be part of Scientific socialism if I am so horrible a person? You would not want your philosophy tainted by me would you? I just want us to be independentistas. All together. That is all I want. I am willing to let all these insults you have thrown my way go today. And just be supportive of our mutual goal to have a free Puerto Rico? I told you I am not a leader. Or good at politics. I am not. Why would I be trying to dominar? I suck at tumbacabeza stuff. I do. If you are sick of reading my stuff. Just say so. I will give you a break. I promise. I will always respect a request from you.

You jump down our throats all the time, like you have some mysterious inside track to wisdom, but then you judge others, but don't judge the flaws nor the Hindus that have you by your tail all these years.

Suki: How have I jumped down your throat? By not becoming a Scientific Socialist orthodox? Now, Eddie. How hard was it for you to give up being a Roman Catholic? As devout as you once were? Hard. That is what. And I am sure you did it because you had to follow your conscience. Now imagine someone coming along and telling you you must give up your philosophy. And this person says they don't trust anyone or love anyone? And they refuse to email you and they refuse to accept you as anything more than an internet acquaintance but they want you to dump something that lowers your blood sugar, makes you feel clearheaded and which you find much meaning and solace. And they tell you leave it all? Yet they won't even give you their last name. In conclusion Eddie, would you change for that person? And if you did? What kind of person would you be? I am being objective here Eddie. Very objective.

YOU ARE A FOOL WHEN IT COMES TO RELIGION, AND NO I DON'T THINK ALL RELIGIONS ARE "odius" or that all rituals and liturgies are "odius" like you say.

Suki: I always knew you were a man who reads religious thought. And are educated about that. But, what else was I to conclude? Are you like Stanley you want me to go to some Good Friday session and become Roman Catholic? And once I do that I am no longer odious to you? I don't get it. You are an atheist. But you want only Christian RC independentistas on the rollcall? No entiendo. There are many religious independentistas in this forum. Why am I the odious one? I don't understand. Please clarify Eddie. I want to know where you are coming from.

NO, I THINK YOUR SCOUREE RELIGION IS ODIOUS AND THAT YOU AND YOUR WACKED-OUT HINDUS ARE MURDERERS, PUNTO Y SE ACABO!

Suki: I never associate myself with murderers. Nor ever would. You are flipping your wig if you think I endorse death, blood, murder,oppression and hatred of human beings. I detest anything associated with that. When you finally can ask me a relevant question about my non-traditionalist non-violent religious sect, then we can talk. You are just out of control saying that Eddie. Tell me to my face I am a murderer one more time. And you will finally see me FURIOUS with you. Something I have never been before. I will respect my mother's rules. I won't throw anything negative to other independentistas. No matter what they may say about me, that is not true.

YOU GOT TO BE HUECO IN THE HEAD, THAT WHEN YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT SUCH THINGS AS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE iNDIAN LADIES, YOU DIDN'T RUN THE HELL OUT OF THAT RELIGION FOR HIGH GROUND.

Suki: There are organizations which I am part of and pay dues to that work on getting rid of that sick stuff you mention. And the ones who are trying to stamp that out are Hindus as well. That practice is really about capitalism and greed. And a patrilineal society out of control. Do you want to talk about that. Or do you want to trash me and say I am evil? I thought you were more reason-based than that Eddier1.

YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE ME PUKE, BUT YOU WON'T SUCCEED.

Suki: I make you want to vomit? Oh, God. Eddie. Why did you just not say that straight out. I will never bother you again. Can you read my vignettes about who I am and still say I make you want to puke? If you want me to address you again Eddie. You had better apologize. You never repulsed me in the two years I have been here. If you hold that amount of disgust for me. Just say so. I am through.

NO YOU ARE GIVING ME THE BEST EVIDENCE I REQUIRE TO PROVE THAT MY VIBES ABOUT YOU ARE 100% VALID. BYE DRAGON LADY!; AND YOUR MAMA ISN'T A CRAZY OLD WOMAN LIKE YOU SAID TO THE WHOLE WORLD VIA THE INTERNET. SHE PROBABLY GOT YOUR NUMBER, BUT SIMPLY WANTS TO CONTINUE HUMORING YOUR MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY CRIPPLED MIND. SHE'S NICE; AND YOU TRY, BUT YOU ARE NOT NICE! NO WAY!!!

Suki: Don't mention my mother again. She does not need the stress. And you should be respectful. Someday, I hope you realize how really offensive what you just said truly is. I think my mother is wonderful. And I hope she does not read this ever. For if she does and is upset by it. I am not sure just how angry I truly will get. You have no idea the stuff you are saying Eddie. I don't understand where all this hostility comes from. I truly don't. My mother does not humor anyone. I can't lose it. I just can't. I am sorry this is getting all so stupidly personal Eddie. I only meant to leave you with a beautiful poem and good thoughts. Estas arruinando todo. No se por que. Estoy confundida. I hope time heals this. I hope time heals this.

Hacia la Victoria Siempre Boricuas, Venceremos!
Soy Puertorriqueno y Punto; y Realista Social.
EddieR
p.s. what I meant by necessary in your pathetic case of domineering is that we will give you a rest if you tried to dominate us scientific socialists. Yes you can be sure of that.

Suki: I don't want to dominar anyone. Ever. I just want to communicate and write things. That is all. Be friends. Simple stuff. You are more ambitious than I Eddie. My dreams are simple. Always have been. Just leave me alone Eddie. I aint gonna interfere with the Scientific Socialist.

[Eddier1]

Fine Suki! yes I said it all, and you ought to know why, because you are the source of the problem and not a part of the solution. There is a valid legal position that there is 'guilt by association'. I became thunderstruck by your "insouciance" over the millions of murdered Indian ladies. And all you could refer to finally was something that you did, in calling your Mom names, and which made me walk around in a daze for over a month about it. Your Mom is very nice, but she is also one tough cookie, and she told you about it, and tried to correct your matriarchical blunder (Eric Fromm might help you there). And finally, let's see if Stanley ever gets to read the post you directed to me in the General Personals forum not so long ago, and then let him try to mutter again that you are a submissive person and not a dominatrix. But enough of all this, I have seen your anger and I am not impressed! Give it a rest, Suki. And when we win our Independence in Puerto Rico, and if we the commies have anything to say about it, if any individuals try to dominate us, we will do whatever is necessary, and that means we too will not only give you a rest, but them also.

HACIA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE BORICUAS, VENCEREMOS!
Soy Puertorriqueno y Punto; e Realista Social.
EddieR