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[Suki]

Stanley,
Neither you or I have any right to question Eddie's emotional issues. I have spoken to him. And the more important parts I will never speak of on this forum or ever. But, I must say no one can judge his life. You don't know what he had to go through in the times and places he had to go through with the kinds of problems he had to cope with it. Being the man he is. I am very, very perceptive Stanley. And I see many things. I HAVE no right to address those things ever with him. Why? Because I must respect his choices and his boundaries. I must.

He is a private man. And me and my emotional love of people and in his case his extraordinary attraction with all that information, life experiences, values and manner of being....got carried away. I am a silly woman in his view. And probably a silly creature all around. But this silly creature, sees a whole lot. And accepts a whole lot. And does not judge emotionally anyone. That is the key to having and keeping loyal friends. Not judging people harshly and just listening to them. And the key to being a good cultural anthropologist.

Stanley, if I could wrap Eddie up and take him with me and he could be part of my world for just a day. I would be quite happy. But this is the internet and distance is key. Also, the man is lovely. And you won't ever see it. Not the way I perceive it. No more. Wait till you see all the fun themes of intellect I have left before my time runs out. And if Ed is out there I hope he comments too.

Suki.

[Eddier1]

Originally posted by Stanley
Il est aliéné, je vous accueillerait dans mes bras.

I think Ed does not like it when I call him an android, but he is pretty close to be a Mr. Data. At this stage intimacy is something that he cannot handle very well because he has to open his heart and expose his emotional turnmoil. I think he has issues---------

Well I just came from the battlefield with the a.r./el jib evil coalition, and I have given it my last word. I have received the brunt of the sticks that were used to strike me repeatedly, some of the them broke in pieces. But I have withstood them as a human being should, and fought the 'good fight' as my conscience has given me to perceive it. As for La Suki, I have not given the last word, and really don't feel that I ever would have to do that. For her, it is obvious that "breaking up is hard to do"; you should appreciate that since you are a musico and will be able to name that tune and its author with no sweat. The thing with Suki had limits and I did not really reject her as she felt. It was merely my blocking any private conversations with her via ICQ and/or e-mail. It was a mere restriction but not what it seemed later to become, triggered by potshots, a total rejection of her. I never intended to not speak with her in the public forums, and discuss issues that were interesting and productive. She misunderstood that I think. When I told her that I would always have AGAPE for her, she obviously did not understand that either. But in total disclosure let me say that, of course, when she did not respond instantly to the message of scientific socialism, like I have experienced many, many others, mostly from the working class, I realized that she would never become a socialist in that sense. Believe me, or let me put it in terms that you religionists might understand, and Suki, too in her Hinduism. To become a communist is an experience that is an EPIPHANY, DIZQUE, A SUDDEN PERCEPTION OF THE ESSENTIAL NATURE OF A THING. In this case, a sudden perception of the truth of communism...I have tried many times to get the best words to describe that epiphany, and think that the best I can do is to say that the person has seen the dawn and that it is red, and that in the depths of the heart finds that he or she is a communist. Now, try as I could as a mentor, I did not experience that epiphany taking place suddenly in Suki. And, therefore, I realized that our "friendship" never could be a real one, since we would never have the same communal mind-set. But, nevertheless, I never thought to ignore her or no longer be courteous to her as an internet acquaintance. That never entered my thoughts nor feelings. I still maintain that she shares in the agape that I have for the entire human race. But whatever you mean by me being Mr. Spock or Data, and you Kirk or Picard, or whatever she means by spoiling someone rotten, is and will always remain incomprehensible to me. And if it is forever beyond the limits of my understanding, then it is NADA to me. If there is a last word regarding this trying situation, it just occured to me that it might be NADA or DE NADA!

[Stanley]

Ed: That was a very interesting post. BTW, I was kidding with the term "issues".

Your description of communism conversion:

To become a communist is an experience that is an EPIPHANY, DIZQUE, A SUDDEN PERCEPTION OF THE ESSENTIAL NATURE OF A THING.

The above is exactly what I always suspected----- one must submit to the system and give up all materialistic thoughts. In a way similar to the vow of poverty that many priests take.

This simply means that communism works for those who want to be communists.

Regarding Suki:

I feel a current of erotic thought emanating from Suki whenever she talks to you. However, she always includes one sentence regarding her admiration for her Papolito to make sure there is no misinterpretation of her words. Despite, that I feel she has a very intense feelings for you. If one were to come to these words de novo one would suspect some sort of romantic affair. The way she describes how she would like to cook for you and talk to you all day has romatic undertones, but perhaps this is my way of looking at things.

[Suki]

Eddie,
spoiling someone rotten. Lol. It is just an expression. What it means is that I would have enjoyed being freinds in the sense of sharing myself with you beyond the intellect, in some emotional realm. Like sending you articles, and having your voice to listen to, and you listening to my voice over the compu or on the phone. Just enjoying people. For who they are. It does not mean making you a spoiled brat. Which is ofcourse ridiculous, for the least spoiled person I have ever met is you.

Yes, you are a handsome man Eddie. And I am glad you see me as part of humanity and will be courteous to me. I see the essential nature of a thing in my own way (and it is as a socialist, but it has the emotional happiness element that Fromm does so well) and not the scientific complexity of your perspective Eddie. And that is why I think you perceived I was not getting your epiphany. Yes, this has been trying. Emotionally for me and probably mentally trying for you. I apologize for that.

But, I am working on improving. Just like I said. And I am going to cooperate and do for my socialistic beliefs and for independence and for preserving and understanding human culture in all its facets and I will write and do creative projects and be true to my interests in life. Be myself. I hope you continue to be yourself too Eddie. Very handsome Eddie. Don't you change on me a bit.

Suki.

[Suki]

Originally posted by Stanley
Ed: That was a very interesting post. BTW, I was kidding with the term "issues".

Your description of communism conversion:

To become a communist is an experience that is an EPIPHANY, DIZQUE, A SUDDEN PERCEPTION OF THE ESSENTIAL NATURE OF A THING.

The above is exactly what I always suspected----- one must submit to the system and give up all materialistic thoughts. In a way similar to the vow of poverty that many priests take.

This simply means that communism works for those who want to be communists.

Regarding Suki:

I feel a current of erotic thought emanating from Suki whenever she talks to you.
Suki: I think many people think I have some kind of erotic vibe or whatever. I don't. I am your average Suki. And I don't see myself coming accross with any sexual energy. Eddie has no interest in that for sure. And I can safely say most if not all of my posts don't contain any hint of sexuality at all. Now you Stanley, I think you see some kind of sexual stuff in many things. Lol. Though to be facetious, and to be truthful. You know Eddie is an older person and most probably has overcome any kind of sexual desires of any sort by now. Me, I am looking forward to monjita days in the future if my husband who by the way Stanley you continue to misspell his apodo is PAPOTITO, not papolito, dies on me before I depart. And all I can say is he is a special man my husband and I doubt another man can cover all the bases emotionally and physically and mentally the way he has with me. I aint going for less quality in a relationship and I highly doubt, there will be another one like Papotito. Even his ex-girlfriends go through hell and high water trying to track him down many years later to confess their 'love' for him. He is lucky I am not a possessive sort. Lol. Some men know how to get straight into a woman's heart and mind and soul and body, and never let it be the same. My husband is one. Now, you Stanley I have a feeling you like all the physical parts as well, thus Eddie's post of "lecher" directed towards you a few weeks back. Lol. No te ofendas Stanley. LLLLOOOOLLLL.

However, she always includes one sentence regarding her admiration for her Papolito to make sure there is no misinterpretation of her words.

Suki: So, I think you realize it is a moot point. I do admire and love my husband very much. That is why you never see me hanging out in Women looking for Men in pr.com. Lol.

Despite, that I feel she has a very intense feelings for you.
Suki: I do. Eddie is damn attractive. I would have to be dead not to like men with brains, a whole lifetime of experiences, and such profound thoughts and knowledge about so many subjects. But he is attractive like a fine professor and teacher is. And also I must admit he appeals to my feminine side as well. I love strong men. Can't help it. That is why I adore my husband. He is one damn strong puertorriqueno. But, Eddie inspires something platonic and nice. Cuz I don't see him that way. But, I will be unattached and make him comfortable in the sense of address productive issues only.

If one were to come to these words de novo one would suspect some sort of romantic affair. The way she describes how she would like to cook for you and talk to you all day has romatic undertones, but perhaps this is my way of looking at things.

Suki: I love to cook for my friends, and listen to their voices and do fun stuff together. I do. I would even cook for you Stanley. For I win prizes with my cooking and my abuelita loved to cook. She was great. So is Mami. Great cook. And so am I. Family tradition. Now, Eddie at this stage in his life does not want nor need some romantic affair. The man done did it all and I am sure he just wants to present his knowledge here to his people and do something interesting and socially responsible. He has no time to waste with all that cheap melodrama. Lol. I would like to talk to the man all day. If I had all day. He is a library of knowledge, and I am one woman who absolutely loves libraries. Plus, Eddie has some seriously wonderful masculine qualities about him. But, I would never be intrusive. I am just one of the peoples to him. And the way he is concerned for the peoples is just perfect for me. Stanley chismoso again. Lol.

Suki.

[Stanley]

Suki:

I am glad you were so emphatic about your non-erotic interest in Ed. Now I will not wonder anymore about what kind of energy you are sending his way. You must forgive me but it seems that sometimes I see the sex angle when there is none. My wife says that this is a trait of all Scorpios like me. My wife is very much like you------- a virgin at marriage with no baggage. It certainly works quite well.

It sounds like Papotito was quite the lady's man in his prime. How many girlfriends did he have before he met you?

[Eddier1]

Stan, Suki is quite correct in what she said about me and erotic stuff. I have long time now been freed from the "tyranny of sex", and before she knew lots about me, she asked if changing her way of expressing herself would help the mentoring on communism that we were into. I told her emphatically not to change her way of being at all, but to be comfortable in expressing herself as she saw fit. And we got on fairly well in our long discussions going all the way back to the beginnings of philosophy up to the present philosophers. Afterall, it wasn't too difficult because all of philosophy, including dialectical materialism has been a footnote to Plato, the Greek, and first Academician in his Academy down the road from the Agora. However, you seem to be much younger than me, and see lots of erotic energy flowing from Suki to you, and if not me, to other men in this forum. That is something you got to explain to her, and if you retract it, then what value do you opine you would have in anything else that you say. I know, I know, never expect the truth from anybody regarding sex. But if you know that too, why point out the eroticism you said you perceived? You know very well that Suki is a Hindu, and eroticism has been a major part of that religion for many centuries (it is a very old religion, probably dating back to the 11th century B.C.. It is older than Buddhism and Confuciousism, and certainly older than Judaism and Judeo-Christianity and, of course, Islam. But take note, that Suki disavows the erotic side of Hinduism, and has said so on this forum. I suppose, however, as a cultural anthropologist she has read the Kama Sutra, and other erotic literature of the Far East, but then that is part of her job, isn't it? I only had optimism when I knew she was a working anthropologist, and was looking forward for that moment of epiphany, when she would have a sudden perception of the truth of communism. But it was not to be. And she opines that she had something like that with Erich Fromm's socialism based on matriarchical centrism. I don't think so... There is nothing motherly about real socialism, the epiphany makes any commie who has had it fight and die for the core values of scientific socialism. It made the commies of Leningrad withstand the siege of all the might of the Werhmact and Luftwaffe for almost 300 days. The commies starved, but kept on fighting as long as they could, until the Germans had to give up and move their armed forces towards Stalingrad, and they failed there, too!The day when the counter attack by our commie soldiers began there was a line of cannon almost 15 miles long. And when they all fired in unison, the foundations of the world shook!, and they kept on firing at will, while the infantry attacked the German forces dashing over hill and dale into the Wermacht until the German forces had to sound the retreat, and it continued all the way back to the bunkers of Berlin, where we commies were the first to enter and win the war. There was everything with the strength of the Man in this, and the woman, some who were soldiers too, participated, but the matriarchical element remained in a fortress of protection; how then can Suki with her revisionist Marxism, ala Eric Fromm from the safety of academia, say that her socialism gave her an epiphany? And that her socialism is the true socialism, sans the patriarchical? No way, Suki!; I ask you to rethink your life and thought, and give it the good sober second thought in tranquillity. Our differences are basically interfactional ones based on these issues of scientific socialism in contradistinction to revisionist socialism. At present, that is all there is to it!

Hacia la Victoria Siempre Boricuas, Juntos Venceremos!
Soy Puertorriqueno y Punto; e Realista Social.
EddieR