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[Suki]

You are you. And you have at least minimal courtesy and don't say such things like that Demonio does.

You have a beautiful family. It is okay. Eddie just wants to stick to intellectually relevant stuff. He does not like any of my 'feelings' being revealed. Lol. But, I felt he had been hurt by my comments in that General Personals post. And I can't lie to myself about why I write certain things. I had to tell him I felt rejected by him and that was the motivation. He could have had a field day with that. If he was an insensitive jerk like El demonio he would have. But instead what did he do? Say how he saw me as one of the peoples. And so on. Eddie has a certain sensibilidad about certain things. I see so many little subtle things in Eddie's way of being. I could give you Stanley a complete analysis of everything about him. But, I have no right. No right at all. Plus, I only wish to learn. And be another people to him. I would have been enormously flattered if he thought me someone special. Or intelligent or whatever.

My husband thinks I am a fine anthropologist. And in the near future I am doing my excavation. Lol. I always enjoy those. Plus, many other things. WHich if Eddie knew about he would be quite filled with tons of questions. But he has put the restriction on me. And that is that. Lol. I got so much to read up on. And so much to do. Plus, I do have to think about Eddier1's post. I will answer his who is who questions later. I understood what he meant by CONCEPTS and not personality cults.

Suki.

[Stanley]

Suki:

I can freely tell you what I think about Ed:

First of all he is a commie-------- that makes him interesting as I had never conversed with a commie before. I think I have a better understanding of what is like to be a real commie and not a poser like Camano.

Ed's posts have confirmed my views on communism. It is not necessarily evil in itself and as I have said a million times it could worked if all involved were loyal and dedicated to the cause. I know Ed will not like this, but been a good commie is very much like been a good preacher or priest who is totally devoted to his calling. The similarities to religion are astounding and hence we are bound to find bad communists as well as bad priests who molest children or preachers who call on prostitutes. We are also bound to have unjust wars and acts in the name of the religion or communism. This is all due to the evil side of the human condition.

We also have other benign feelings which are not easy to control and may interfere with communism. Many humans want to achieve and to receive appropriate compensation for exceptional work. In commie states there is no vehicle to compensate the talented to a greater degree than the average. This is why I know communism does not work. It destroys the motivation--------- the essence of the human spirit.

In the mind of Ed communism should work, but he is only looking at the world thru his eyes. It is like comparing the desire of a devoted priest to serve God with the mundane religious beliefs of a parish member. The convictions are of different degrees.

Ed has another side which is comical and somewhaat dark. He will often use this when posting to El Jibaro, AR, or EC. He will write something which implies he has a vast knowledge of the private lives of others and he does it in such a way that it is hard not to believe him. In fact, El Jibaro uses the same technique when responding.

He also has a great gift as a storyteller and I get a kick about how he met Miguel Unamuno, Thomas Alba Edison, fought in WW2 as well as in Spain (at the same time), ect, ect. He can sure tell stories. Of coursde there maay be some truth in there, but he knows how to spice them up.

I also get a kick about how loyal you are to him. Nothing short of "Saltamontes" talking to his master. For you this is a religious experience and I see nothing wrong with that. However, it also shows your naive side and that is a beautiful thing. Remember all good socialists and devoted commies must have an element of naivette.

[Suki]

Stanley, I know Eddier1 is a human being and not perfect. Of course I realize he has flaws.

Like I said many times. I accept people for who they are. Not for I would like them to be. And frankly Stanley. There are certain things I think you won't ever understand. You just can't dude. You have not been through certain things. Or dealt with certain things related to politics. You have not. And thus you won't get it. Never gonna get it. Stanley.

Eddie's stories. Hey, I have had so many weird truth is stranger than fiction stories happen to me, that I don't find his relatos about life all that hard to believe. I do believe he does not like to say exactly how old he is. Lol. All people have a right to some secrets. Lol. I respect age and experience Stanley. I truly do. Because they teach you a whole lot about life. You are a father of five kids. If I had questions about children I would not hesitate to ask you. You have certain experiences that I would like to have in terms of raising children.

Eddie, is Eddie. And I truly think him dedicated. And as such worthy of all the respect in the world. There are so many people who do things half-assed in this world. With so little true committment to anything of any substance at all. Oh, Stanley, you still think socialism is about Easter bunnies and Santa Claus and such. Man, you don't know anything about it. You just don't. The capitalist machine thinks it is the most powerful force on earth. And it eats men and women and spits them out like wood chips. But every oppressive thing has an ending in this world. It does. Because the essential nature of the homo sapiens is freedom. And truth in that Freedom Stanley is stopping anything that impedes that essential need lodged inside the human race. Todo que impede ese paso is going down. No doubt about it. I am not afraid of anything that brings essential freedom Stanley. And freedom is not about having lots of sex, and drinking lots of wine, and eating lots of donuts. Lol. No. It is about, letting humanity be treated as creatures of dignity and within a social context in which we live for one another and serve one another with no selfish interests. I think if you want something different Stanley and want capitalism only sink or swim competition. Fine. Alla tu. But leave the socialists societies alone and don't manipulate, or interfere in their chosen way of dealing with things. That is all the capitalists have done. Gone after those societies with a vengeance. And all kinds of things have happened because of it. I won't speak of so many things. Like Papotito says I keep many things to myself. For years. Ay, olvidalo Stanley.

Good Night Stanley. And tell your lovely wife. She has a passionate, Scorpio husband. Lol. I have a freind who loves astrology. Which zodiac sign do you think Eddie is? And me? Lol. And Papotito?

Suki.

[Stanley]

Suki:

The capitalist machine thinks it is the most powerful force on earth. And it eats men and women and spits them out like wood chips.

I have never denied the above------- pure capitalism is a terrible thing and it is not a good thing for many. However, as I said before------------- someone has to create the wealth.

And freedom is not about having lots of sex, and drinking lots of wine, and eating lots of donuts. Lol. No. It is about, letting humanity be treated as creatures of dignity and within a social context in which we live for one another and serve one another with no selfish interests.

I agree, in fact you sound like John Lennon doing the song "Imagine". I recall I posted the words to this tune for Ed's comsumption. Serrat did another like that in Catalan called "Seria Fantastique". I don't know anyone who would not want a world like that. My only beef is "wealth"--------- where does it come from? Capitalists know how to create wealth. Socialists only know how to spread the wealth. In the end there has to be a mixed economy.

Capitalism also stimulates intense competition which in the long run leads to cheap goods not available in a society where competition with one another is discouraged. All these goodies that you and I use to enhance our daily living are the product of capitalism. In a socialist world you and I would not have a computer or Internet to communicate.

To a certain extent I see your point, but you are correct-------- I have never struggled in this life. I was blessed to have a great set of parents who encouraged me to have a profession. Yes, my mother told me--------- "Don't simply go to college to be educated-------- you must have a profession so you can earn a good living". I told the same thing to my son, but he would not listen. He is a liberal guy and studied liberal arts. Now he is unemplyed and going back to school to study a profession. I know, I know-------- it would be great if we could all earn a living regardless of the type of education or training we received.

[Edited by Stanley on 16th July 2003 at 18:42]

[El_Jibaro]

[b][i]Mr. Ed likes to project his own fantasies and personality disorders on his enemies all the time. However, I just reconstruct the lives of my pen-adversaries based on what they write , and that is just the use of plain-vanilla psychology, the same psychology I was taught in College when I took my required and optional socio-humanity credit courses during my Engineering studies in Mayagüez .

Hey, so far, I have been correct 95% of the time.

Mr. Ed, on the other hand, has been out to pasture ...

[Eddier1]

Stan, I could not help notice that you still have doubts about what I said concerning my duties and experiences well over a half century ago. And that is alright, because you are human, and never as you said in your last post had to struggle in your life. My life was and is to the total opposite of your life; I had to struggle from day one, even as an infant who was mistakenly given whole milk, due to the fact that my Mom was taken ill soon after I was born. That whole milk gave me a colitis condition that has,intermittenly affected me all my life. Got to be extremely careful of what I eat as to roughage, etc.. But I am well enured to pain by now, and keep up with my agenda time-wise fairly well. Also, I told you that I am NOT a paquetero, and that is the truth. Sometimes, I say things that could be put more effectively in language, but, hey, language doesn't give us everthing; there are limits, irregardless of what the Sapir-Worf linguists may opine to the contrary. What you have done in not accepting that the truth in this world is often stranger than fiction is to make me go back to those days of yore in memory, and that is not a happy accident. Because those days were filled with horror for a young man, who was in Spain during the Civil War, and later was associated with the OSS of Wild Bill Donovan, the precursor to the present CIA. Hear this! that in all my missions, I had but one vessel that I could call my "ship", and it was the Intrepid, where I participated in the Gulf of Leyte Battle that had extended into the Coral Sea. In that mother of all sea battles we were introduced to the first real waves of Japanese suicide planes, the Kamakases. And later on, and immediately after that battle, we were evacuated from our crippled aircraft carrier, which now floats as a national museum in the harbor of New York City. Out of the "frying pan and into the fire" because we were sent, Marines and all, to the landings on the beaches of Iwo Jima. If you know anything about Iwo Jima, then you can appreciate what HELL IS ALL ABOUT! I would probably not like to do this, but to add a sober element to your doubts, and place them in historical perspective, that is trite anyhow, I will dust off my medals, and reflect as modestly as I can humanly do so, the DSC I received for my actions on the decks of the Intrepid, and my Order of Lenin, which I received for my assistance to the Soviet Union's Peoples Red Army (which BTW has never lost a war ever in its existence, from the days of defeating the American and British forces that backed the White Army, onwards to the defeat of the Wehrmact and Lutwaffe that had invaded Russia in Operation Barbarossa), and finally to Mao Tse Tung Badge of Socialist Labor for assisting the Peoples Red Army of China in it war against the Imperialist Japanese and anticommmunist Chinese Nationalists. Oh, before I forget, I also got the proverbial Purple Heart for wounds received on the burning decks of the Intrepid. Thanking you in advance, if you at least reconsider your suspicions of me being 'paquetero', because I have never been that...never!

THE LAMP IS LIT!
EddieR

[El_Jibaro]

Mr. Ed, the octogenarian Soviet spy from the Eisenhower Era surfaces for air ...