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Old 18th July 2003, 08:30
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I was in the Air Force-------- at the officers club they had an event called a "dining-in" where one wears the gala uniform. There is some protocol at the onset which includes the lighting of the smoking lamp.

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Old 18th July 2003, 11:46
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I was in the Air Force-------- at the officers club they had an event called a "dining-in" where one wears the gala uniform. There is some protocol at the onset which includes the lighting of the smoking lamp.

Stan, let me say first that I was deeply affected by what you said about your Dad, in the early years when he had to go 'barefoot' because the economy of Puerto Rico was shot. Could that have been during the great depression, when the adage became a classic that if the U.S. economically gets a cold; Pr gets pneumonia or even worst? It was afterall the GREAT depression and from what I know of other Puerto Rican families many children and adults even died of starvation during that terrible time. Your Dad must have been a man of steel to have endured so much, and become later on a successful professional, dizque, a Judge in the legal system of Puerto Rico. What a guy; no wonder you idolized him. Now, you said you were in the Air Force, and was that Army or Navy! If Navy, then it was the Marine Air Force that does the flying. I say this because of the mention of the gala uniform; and we all know what gala means when we see that dress uniform of the Marine, pilot or grunt. lol. I can't quite take in that the Army Air Force would ever co-opt anything that is Navy; you must know the rivalery that exists between them, and which is seen at it benignest in the classic Army-Navy football games. And yes I still smoke, and have done so for over a half century, although now I limit myself to my "doobie", or pipe and occasionally a good cigar after a fine meal. I will never give it up, first because I still don't think that the evidence is scientifically conclusive that it will always cause the Big C. We can point to lots of famous people who have smoked all their lives, virtually, and others like the French woman who died as the oldest woman ever in France at age 124 old, and who had smoked the strongest French cigs the Gaulloises (not sure of the spelling) since a teenager up to two days before she expired, and NEVER got the Big C. Also Winston Churchill who smoked from teenage to old age, and Mark Twain who did so also, beginning when he was like Huck, a kid who smoked a corncob pipe. Just some examples of persons who smoked incessantly and never got a carcinogenic condition. I'll bet that now at your age you don't smoke, huh; but in the early picture you posted of you and your spouse, you had a cigarette lit, and probably smoked lots. Do you believe everything the American gov't and their government related scientists tell you? Perhaps, as a capitalist, who had a Dad who suffered a capitalist caused depression, you now have reached the stage where you do believe everything they hype. It would be probably "unbearable" for you to have had to struggle like your Dad did, and make something of yourself on your own, eh?

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Old 18th July 2003, 13:41
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I was in the USAF and I believed the so called dining in uniform was very lame-------------- We looked like waiters. The Navy and Army had much prettier uniforms, in particular the Navy.

I don't know if my dad was ever barefooted, but some of my uncles on the maternal side of my family were. The depression was very hard to PR who had a more classic 3rd world look at that time.

My dad was not a greedy man and never had his own business or law practice. He tried, but as I said he did not have the shark/ambulance chaser mindset. He also refused to play the "I scratch your back I scratch yours game" so . I remember him as the most honest man I have ever known and he had not one ounce of hipocrisy in his persona. He was the real deal and I wish I was like him. As a father he gave me all the support in the world, but never tried to shape me or steer me into any particular direction of his liking--------------- he always allowed me to do my own thing. In other words he was not like the typical dad who will drive his kids nuts-------- he gave me all the necessary freedom so I could become my own person. BTW, I am not greedy at all even thou I favor a capitalist system. I fully recognized the fact that the idea of profit for the sake of profit is not always a good idea and that at some point a private business should make decisions based on something else other than the bottom line.

Regarding smoking:

I never was a smoker, but as a youngster I tried it many times---- I never got hooked. I believe I have a very non-addict type personality. I love golf and I can still leave it or take it. My mom is the same way and she still likes a puff or two from a cig after a good meal. I may enjoy a cigar everyonce in a while.

Regarding the risk of smoking:

There are folks who are going to get lung cancer even if they never smoked and there are folks who will never develop cancer despite heavy smoking. However, many fall in the middle and their outlook may be directly proportional to the so called "pack-years" of smoking. Do you know where you are in this scale?------------------ It is hard to tell! However, the data shows an overwhelming correlation between smoking and a higher incidence of lung cancer. In fact the numbers have risen dramatically for women as it became much more acceptable for them to be heavy smokers. Folks from your era tend to be smokers---------- during those days all actors smoked while doing scenes in movies. Smoking was the right thing to do in the 1940s. In addition smoking seems to provide the ability for many folks to concentrate and perform at a higher level. There are many adults with so called Attention Deficit Desorder who compensate quite well with the stimulation of nicotine. Many golfers play better when they smoke.

[Edited by Stanley on 18th July 2003 at 20:17]
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Old 18th July 2003, 18:38
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The Maitreya is breaking his assinine fundie trying to pick a fight, and he can only rewrite history. Yelsin's stupid liberalism was already extant in Russia beginning with Kruschev's denunciation of Uncle Joe Stalin. It ended with Gorbechev's Perastroika garbage, and he was also thrown in the dust bin of history. Why did the Russkies want to fight the Mujehadin that were fighting against the Afghan gov't, who had called for assistance from the Russian gov't? The Russkies wanted most of all to establish a buffer of hegemony against the insurgency of the Mujehad that was threatening to Russia's borders. It was the old notion of the Tsars that Russia would have Hegemony over its neighboring countries, and gradually extend its imperialistic minions. Did not the U.S. want to curtail such Russian hegemonic imperialism; indeed it did, and even enlisted the aid of Osama Bin Laden as one of its CIA agents to rally the struggle against the Mujehad. The Afghan gov't on the other hand proved very weak even with outside assistance, and its fall was predictable, and that opened the way for the Taliban extreme rightwing fundies to take over eventually the Afghan gov't. The Taliban gov't then gave protection and assistance to the Al-Qaida organization formed by Osama. The nationalistic Russkies realized that intervention between the Mujehad and coming Taliban gov't would be non-productive to their old Tsarist's objectives of establishing a Hegemonic imperialistic dominance over that region, and decided to call it quits. All of this had absolutely nothing to do with the principles of communism; it had everything to do with the coming of Yelsin's foolish gov't with western democracy notions that proved disastrous to the economy and prestige of Russia. Indeed, it is true like Marx, Lenin, and Stalin avered that is very dangerous when once engaged in becoming a communist state for the authors of that engagement to stop half-way. It all ended as predicted with Gorbechev being ejected from power and coming to the Western advertising media, and even making commercials for products on T.V. etc.. What fools these anticommunist mortals be! They only have jerks and old farts like the Maitreya to lead them by the nose.

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Suki: Reading fast has its advantages occassionally. I have been keeping up with your dialog with Voice and you made some very good points. Very good. Especially about the Yankees protecting the oil fields and letting the factions kill each other with impunity. Lol. Es verdad.

The leadership is so bad in Russia. It truly is. But so it is in the USA. I thought Clinton sucked and so does Bush. Bush is just some lower IQ, idiot ultra conservative. With delusions of grandeur and no statesman skills, and yes he has made trapos de la constitucion de Estados Unidos.

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Old 18th July 2003, 18:57
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Wink Horoscope facts. Lol

My friend loves all that. And gave me a mini education on it. Lol. I don't take it at all seriously but, if you are an Aquarius Eddie. It means you are an air sign. And AIR means you love FREEDOM more than anything on earth. For Air MUST circulate without impediments. Also, Aquarius people are known for high intelligence, reserve (on the emotional scale), progress, modernity, (your predilection even at your age for computers), being eccentric, different, unconventional, creative, and courageous. Not liking to be tied down. Especially in relationships with the opposite sex. Lol. And are the Zodiac's humanitarians. Being very good at identifying what keeps human beings down and trying for truth and justice always. You are a typical Aquarius in all respects. And one more note. You fall in love with a person's mind first before all else. And only realize how much you liked the person when they are missing and no longer around. At least that is what my book says. Lol.

According to the Zodiac theme here Aquarians should watch out for being standoffish, too reserved, overcritical of themselves or others and being too secretive. I think it fits you to a tee. Lol. Aquarius hate gossip, small talk and are not particularly patient. But I think you are the HUMANITARIAN par excellence. In every way.

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Stan the Scorpio.....hmmm

Scorpios are good investigators, and spies. Firing the MC cam is quite down your alley. LLLLLLOOOOOLLLLL. They are a water sign and are more flexible and sensitive than others. They need emotional security and are intuitive and can see many things other only hint at. Supposedly they can be the most vindictive of all twelve signs and will carefully plan revenge if they think the offense merits it. They love all the sensual realms. Like sex, food and security and material things. But they are happiest only when surrounded by loved ones and people whom they trust. They can be hard workers and dedicated. And have high energy reserves. Usually when others are worn out. They keep on going strong. They should watch out for possessiveness, jealousy, envies, and rampant desires. They cover well. And also make excellent parents because they know when someone they love (like their children or spouse) is lying to them. And they can discipline them but with love. So it is easily accepted.

Is that you Stanley?

My friend likes all this. I think it is hit and miss. And I don't think it is all that true. Lol.

I am glad you guys are having a fine conversation. Lol.

And Scorpios have the most vivid dreams of any other sign in the Zodiac. Hmmmm. I wish I knew Stanley's dreams. JAJA.
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Capricorn:

My friend says we are conventional, intelligent, authoritarian, hard-working and practical. And down to earth. We are ambitious and stable, and loyal. AND very, patient. In all things. Earth sign. I don't see sensual or sexy in the descriptives. Lol. I have been redeemed!!! Lol.

Eddie, when are you going to answer the questions about McCarthy? What did you think of that man and that period? Tu opinion please. Me interesa.

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Old 18th July 2003, 20:31
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Suki: McCarthy was a super sicko. And how did you get away from all the McCarthism Eddie? Or did they just try to strong arm you or something? I know that freak J. Edgar Hoover was a total right wing evil dude and gay as can be. He and his secretrary eran amantes por annos. And he persecuted homosexuals mercilessly while he himself was a flaming queen. The guy was a total weirdo in my opinion. Making his chauffeur take 3 right turns instead of making a single left turn because he hated the left so much. What a vile man. And to think the FBI building still has his name in DC. No se. Eddie which era do you think was more intolerant towards communism? The 1950's or now? Or the other decades? Just curious about your answer

Well, "super sicko", I don't think so. He was a member of the Knights of Columbus, a real conservative Roman Catholic who looked to his church in all matters including politics. The Church was dead set against atheistic communism, and so as a good Catholic, with political influence as a Senator, he was against it in the extreme, too. The Irish Catholic had principles and was consistent to them, and because of that made a most formidable opponent against us commies. In a sense, he was a fundamentalist, but since he acted according to his church in harmony with his conscience, he was not a phoney, false, fake, Christian. Oh noo..he was not a Maitreya at all. An alcoholic, who drank too much was about his level of vice. And he paid the price for it by actually drinking himself to death after he was censured by the Senate. His whole world crumbled after his defeat in the Army-McCarthy hearings. He had no reason to live, no purpose because he failed his church and his country. Of course, it is all pathetic, but at least he was pathetically true to his ideals and faith. And yes he gave me one bad time indeed; somehow he got my name from some cell or other, and I was rounded up by the authorities, not charged with anything nor permitted to speak to a lawyer, and I was sent kit-and-koboddle to a concentration type camp somewhere out in the wilderness of forests, and to this day don't know where that was. There we commies were all huddled together in a covered but empty patio, and faced towards an obstacle course of barbed wire, and traps, snares, and what have you; we were not permitted to sit down not even on the ground, no chairs, tables, just empty concrete. We discussed what all this meant, and one elderly commie said it was to tempt us to try and escape, and if the barbed wire and traps didn't finsh us off, there would be a contingent of military police waiting for us at the other end. And since I was among the youngest, I said I would test it out, because no way would I allow myself to remain a captive, when there was the slimmest chance of gaining my freedom. I told them to watch what I did, and if I got to the end, without meeting guards, then they could follow the same path to freedom. Well I got through alright, jumping traps and dodging snares, but when I got to the end, sure enough as the old commie told me the guards were waiting and had vehicles with the doors wide open. I was immediately put in one of them, and wisked away to some other location; where after some legal considerations I was let go. I guess I was a risky person to have around my other commies friends, some of whom I later visited in a federal prison where they were detained sans legal counsel. This was all McCarthyism at its worst and the worst era for us; the best era came with the beginning of the policy of Detente which Kissinger and Nixon put into effect when they realized that the Vietnam war was lost. McCarthy at his worst was never a Maitreya, he was loyal to his conscience and his church, and in good standing with it. His problem was that he was dead wrong about communism, and that's that.

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Old 18th July 2003, 20:36
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Talking Alger Hiss...

A Marxist idiot who betrayed us all like some other reptilian creeps around here...

Marxism can only be overcomed head on, like we saw when the Soviet Union died .
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