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Old 21st December 2003, 15:12
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I understand Eddie. I am going to buy Kant today. And read him during free time in the weekends and things, this time I will take careful notes. And I will be vigilant. And stick to questions of depth only. Just don't remind me about how I am not allowed to eat eclairs or cream puffs, or chocolate glazed donuts. That is cruel and unusual punishment for a diabetic dealing with her concrete conditions. Even if the cruel and unusual punishment has led her to her 'epiphany' LOL!! And no you are not an old fool. You are just a wise Puertorriqueno. LOL!!! And Mami has told me a lot. Lol.

Suki.
Suki, the best editions of any work in English are to be found in the great publishing houses of England. It has been a long time since I have tried to contact those houses in England. In my day, I had to use "snail" mail, and wait and wait to get what I needed. But today, I am sure if you do a search, you can contact those houses via the Internet, and place an order that will arrive via airbus delivery in a day or two.

About your prohibition to partake of donuts, who knew? I certainly didn't and it was not directed at you on that occasion. I partake of my favorites, either blueberry donuts, black raspberry and/or lemon donuts. But I do that rarely, maybe once or twice a month.

When I wrote to you, the Saddam incident kept me up without sleep, watching the "latest breaking news" and I was not able to make my usual breakfast of cafe latino con leche, avena sin azucar, y dos toastados con margarina. Really, your diet was the furthest thing on my mind that morning, and it was I who walked out into a snowstorm, with over thirty miles an hour howling winds. It was truly a strange day for me, but I enjoyed my donuts and coffee. Ooops, sorry if I whet your appetite again. But I never meant to do that then, nor now.
Suki: Well I tried the average bookstore Barnes and Noble and a great independent bookstore here called the Tattered Cover....it is a bookstore with four stories and the coziest little reading areas....they have books from everywhere and if they don't have it they order it. But NO Kant. But, the clerk said I could order it from one of those English Publishing houses you mentioned,...he also mentioned something really great. University of Colorado university bookstore Philosophy texts....I checked their course catalog and a syllabus...and Kant is on the reading list. I could sneak a copy in pretending I am taking one of the philosophy courses. I ordered it via computer. Let us see what happens. And I am glad to know your predilection for blueberry donuts and lemon and raspberry donuts. Oh, Eddie....I cook and bake everything. I used to do cheesecakes, puddings, flans, creme brulees, donuts from scratch, pies and cookies, and so well....people wanted me to make that my profession....cuz I did it for friends only...and they loved it so MUCH. But, for quite a few years now. I cook healthy (which does not mean boring). I now make desserts without refined sugars....but got extremely creative with the substitutes.....and now I cook really healthy but lose none of the taste. IT AINT easy....but I did it!! Including all the Puerto Rican classics....but slightly modified so it is lighter in calories and healthier. For example for lunch I made vegetable soup and brown rice....the dessert was papaya, nopal fruit and pommegranate salad...I baked the platanitos instead of fried and lightly flavored them with sour cream mixed with birch bark sugar and a dash of vanilla...the vegetable soup had, green zucchini, yellow zucchini, carrot puree, celery, yellow onion, red onion, red and orange bell pepper, cilantro, eggplant, minced garlic, fire roasted tomatoes and portabello mushrooms finely diced and first grilled in olive oil and salt and fresh ground oregano, tomatillo verde and a touch of ginger miso and one precious aji dulce...and then all chopped carefully and sea salt to taste with a dash of dry white wine....the brown rice is boiled in organic vegetable broth with a side of butter lettuce that has vidalia onions I have caramelized. I make a punch with organic apple juice and Pellegrino sparkling water. It is very tasty, I add a dash of dark black cherry juice. The cherry juice is great vitamin c and I enjoy pitting them and putting them in. It give that a warm color to the punch. It is also not too sweet, just kind of pleasant. I DO HOPE I whetted your appetite precioso Eddie...it is revenge for your donuts. Lol. I wrote in Religion my Mythology there....in the Kazanova thread...if you ever want to comment about what I know you think as arguning over the inarguable....you are welcome. But I think culturally religion is an interesting subject for you. Like Yeshuah and Jesus' life is of interesting to you. Like the drums found in the buddhist temple and the Zakodites and the Essenes. You are a tremendously civilized and erudite person in his own right Eddie. It is always a pleasure speaking of these things with you.

Suki.
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Old 21st December 2003, 17:42
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Yes, Maya is the word for 'illusion' and the five senses plus emotional responses are considered illusory. What they try to do, to create less attachment to instinct and overstimulation by emotions (which are desires as well) is to channel emotion to energy centers in the spine. As all of us have experienced, strong emotions or emotional reactions drain energy and leave us physically and mentally depleted. Whether that is agressiveness, anger, joy, happiness, sex, or love. If the emotion is felt too strongly. The body and the mind afterwards are drained and depleted. Therefore, steady flow of energy that does not fluctuate too much at all from extremes, is the beginning of dominating the instincts and the emotions. It is very interesting. I find Eddie to be going in a direction I will readily understand. And I am quite pleased, it is certainly an early christmas present. I wish he and I could still talk away from the board. It is just too public and slow once I get into Kant again. But, all of this dialog, he will be the one to choose to direct. I trust his knowledge of Kant. And whatever Eddie would like is fine by me. So, that is why you are such a night owl Ed? Less traffic. I like the threads with you and I only too. Lol.

I am excited about this. I think it makes me understand so many other things about objective truth as you said. How can I ever repay you Eddie? I guess just work harder on that artistic endeavor dedicated to you I mentioned. Well enough for now, I will check later on tomorrow morning for your comments to my revelations and jokes....I am secure enough now to think, that after all these many posts Eddie, you can admit you like my writing. Lol. However much you like my writing Eddier1, I like yours twice as much. You know my father wrote so many lovely short stories about his early life in Puerto Rico. I have not been able to have the emotional strength to open those old files and read those stories again. Every time I do, I start crying uncontrollably. But, since that little purging I had in that language thread, I find myself seeing it with less pain....and more fondness. Maybe I should read them again. And see all of this emotion for what it is. Transitory. You have no idea how much you have helped me companero Eddie. Bless you always!

Suki.
In psychology, emotions are Physiological reactions to thoughs, If you control your thoughs you can control your emotion, therefore they are illusions.
I think the way we process thoughs, is exactly part of the whole thing.
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Old 29th December 2003, 22:37
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There comes a time for reflection and study

And Eddie,
It has come. How can one become a good controller of emotions in one's mind. I have only learned to try to stop the flow of thoughts. And to meditate a while. But, I want to bring reason into my mind. And filter emotions and all of its transitory reactions under control. I am going to need it. Sometimes I think of that dark, black pain of losing my parent. And of the threat of losing my mother and my husband. Being alone. Really alone. With no one with that long history to speak with. And it terrifies me. I don't want that. I want to have peace and to be strong and be able to channel strong emotion and level it with reason. I think Kant holds the key to doing that. And adopting that. And bringing it to a point of reasonable and level control. That is a good goal to have.

I promised to study. I will do that.
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