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[conciencia]

Buddism or Hindu, believes in physically hitting the female gender as with they were children? Especially if they will not comply with their doctrine? Which one?

[Patria_y_LaPava]

Originally posted by conciencia
Buddism or Hindu, believes in physically hitting the female gender as with they were children? Especially if they will not comply with their doctrine? Which one?

I never hear, nor read, anything in any Sutra of the Pali Tipitaka or any Canon, that said that it was ok to hit a woman, or anything. Actually, the five precepts, which is similar to the Christian Ten Commandments, first rule is not to harm or hurt any living being. Now, I can speak for myself and the basis of my religion, but Buddhism has been incorporated into many cultures, and as well for many other religions, has people that don't fully comply with what the texts of the religion say.

Also, it as well against the doctorines of Buddhism, to force the religion and philosophy on any people. You can make the information available, tell the people, through means that are not intrusive or a nuisance. If the people, choose so and come and hear the teachings, it is their decision. You have to be the starting point of your own salvation, and you will have to want it, and if you do, the information will be available to you.

Also, it is against the Buddhist doctorines, to disrespect any other religion that has compassion and loving-kindness in their doctorines. If that religion makes some people happy, better their lives, and allows them to help their fellow man, then those people are doing exactly what Buddhism wants for people, so they need not be forced to convert unless they choose to through their own means.

So, someone who follows the Buddhist religion, hits a woman and says it is ok, is not following the religion's doctorines. The same as for Puerto Rican or Mexican gang members, who shoot, rape, and kill eachother, then on Sunday go to church and to their confession boothes....

I can't speak for Hinduism, but in the many sects of Hinduism, I don't think anyone of them ever preached that either.

[Patria_y_LaPava]

How could Buddhists, especially Mahayana Buddhists, ever support the abuse of women, when our most honored and loved Bodhisattva, Kuan Yin, (Chinese) or Avalokitesvara, (Pali) is a woman.


Also, I would like to ask, from where or whom, did you get the notion of that question you asked me? Just curious....

[Edited by Patria_y_LaPava on 4th January 2002 at 04:03]

[conciencia]

Patria,

In a flight, from Jersey to Tampa, I meet this Indian national. He was telling me of the far-east/east religions and how he really had his own way thinking as oppose to his wife. He really had a thick accent and I could not recall which Religion he mentioned, that allowed the husband to hit his wife. We were comparing with Islam, since they do allow hitting their wives.

[Patria_y_LaPava]

Originally posted by conciencia
In a flight, from Jersey to Tampa, I meet this Indian national. He was telling me of the far-east/east religions and how he really had his own way thinking as oppose to his wife. He really had a thick accent and I could not recall which Religion he mentioned, that allowed the husband to hit his wife. We were comparing with Islam, since they do allow hitting their wives.

Intresting. Well, most Indians follow the Hindu faith, and within Hinduism, there are many different kinds of sectors and languages.

A very small number of Northern Indians follow Buddhism, mostly influenced by the exiled Tibetans from Tibet since the late 40's. I am not sure that most Hindu sects support that kind of abuse.

Most likey that man was neither the two, but a Shiek, or maybe he was reflecting his own opinion or his culture, not necessearily reflecting his religon's true doctorine.

Anyway, you are right about Islam....

[Suki]

It is wrong and yet they continue going against Christian precepts and hit their wives. In my own marriage my husband has never cursed me or raised a hand or used vulgar language towards me EVER. And he knows the day he lifts a finger against me is the last day he will see my face. But he is a beautiful moral person who would never do that to me or any woman. Unfortunately there are people who get into abusive relationship for many reasons. I do not think an abusive husband wakes up one day out of the clear blue sky and says to himself "I think I want to beat Mary up today!!" there are many indicators from the beginning that the man is going to be violent or is violent towards women but the woman continues for many psychological and emotional and other reasons anyway.

I have a simple formula that I used to give out to some of the welfare moms (many of which are victims of domestic violence), I gave them a pamphlet that said: LEAVE YOUR LOVER, BOYFRIEND OR HUSBAND IF HE HAS ONE OR ALL OF THESE 3 PROBLEMS. Ultimately it is your choice to stay or leave...but he must be the one that wants true change not you. You wanting it is not enough.

1. If your husband is violent. Leave.

2. If your husband is a drug addict or alcoholic that refuses treatment and continues the behavior. (This includes gambling addicts as well who refuse treatment).

3. If your husband refuses to work (and wants perpetual unemployment)or help you in the home (neither does he work outside or inside the home just bums all day) and just wants to leech off you like a child forever. Leave.

If he has none of the 3 problems then communicate and work it out.

Fin.

Suki.

[Leticia_g]

In everything I have read concerning those religions, I have never seen it preached the practice of, "abuse of the female". I do know, many religions are abused or taken in context. People interpret what they want in order to justify their behavior or to accomplish a goal, such as elimination of a race.

I would say, just as different cultures, people carry things to the extreme, when they feel they are losing control. Religion is no difference. In history we have seen this happen repeatingly.

Females have been abused only because many men can't or won't take the time to understand them. They fear the control the females have on the males by the mere fact of a gesture. This of course is interpreted in many religion as sinful or the woman being blamed. When in all reality it is the man that can't control himself.

Both religions you mentioned, preach peace and love, they preach the inner beauty of the body and soul. They donot say that only men have it.


Much respect to you!