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Old 21st March 2002, 14:20
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Suki, optimistically I hope there are no disruptions because of what I am going to say to you. And if, per chance, there are, don't sweat it since I have experience in nullifying such disruptions.

First of all, you don't appear to have any significant questions about the subject matter of scientific socialism, which is the primary matter of our prolonged disquisitions. Instead, you are assuming that you know what scientific socialism is already! And I opine that you had presuppositions about it before you ever approached me about my mentoring the subject matter; and from everything you have been saying, especially lately, you have not switched your thoughts about it, not one iota.
Yes, you say you are continuing your studies, or at least your speed reading of the subject matter, the most recent being on the "Selected Works of Mao tse Tung", but your comments about it don't seem to be fertile in terms of depth of thought, but rather shallow and/or superficial, like you already made up your mind, from the days of your college studies, that you understood it, and as then and also now make short shrift of the subject matter of scientific socialism. And thus and so, until you get to many other topics, mostly personally based, which heap upon the core of the discussion, and which only seem intent on foiling my thoughts which I have held for well over half a century.

You speak of the importance of change. Okay, when have I ever appeared stuck in the mud, when if you have been reading my stuff (mis postulados) I have made clear many times that I am not opposed to change, and especially evolutionary change? I have said time and again that peaceful coexistence between differing social systems is the way to go, and that peaceful reforms are best relevant to the concrete conditions of the present times.
But let me make one thing patently clear that reform is acceptable in seeking changes, however, we must remain centered in our principles, because they are core principles which are universal and unchanging, and, indeed, the very foundations of objective reality! All else, is mere subjectivism, which allows that all variations are equally valid, even though most of those variations are simply "masks of eternity" devoid of any principles of objective reality like the categories of reason and social responsibility. In short, those "masks" of religionist symbolism and philosophical systems of cosmological proportions fall woefully short of objective reality and truth.

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EddieR
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Old 21st March 2002, 19:54
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Eddie

I am not talking about your deepest held principles I am just thinking out loud....lol. I do have some questions regarding scientific socialism Eddie. In due time I will ask you about them and I feel you are a wealth of information on interpretation of scientific socialism.

I know you are not against change because scientific socialism accepts evolutionary principles. What is objective and science based is not subject to "subjectivity" but upon agreed upon and consistent truths. I don't dispute that ever....what I am saying is that human behavior and actions are not particularly rational. Thus we have cults and religions that refuse to acknowledge that human beings no matter what class, language, culture etc. are made of the same stuff as they, and are not "inferior" or "superior" but due to subjective stuff such as culture and legacy or other subjectively learned things they no longer think strictly rationally....humans are socially conditioned Eddie. So they believe a lot of crap that is not necessarily true at all, and it affects their actions....for example a lot of people in Capitalist societies think communism is evil and bad and detrimental to a democratic and free society....you know why Eddie....why do they think that when information is available out there to explain communism and in the most rational way (with often their own working class experiences to back it up Eddie), they choose instead to believe the opposite? Social conditioning, lack of understanding and etc. You once said some people can perceive what scientific socialism is.....and others can't because they can't grasp certain concepts....I think most people can understand the concept if it is explained in a way that the person can relate to.

Why is it not explained to them in a way all can deal with and understand? You know the answer to that.

I do not presume to know what a person with your dedication to scientific socialism knows Eddie. That is hopeless. I would have had to have as many years studying and more importantly living it like you have to get an inkling of how you think and how true Scientific Socialists of your era, age, sex and group think (taking out your individual idiosyncresis)as factors as well.

You think I have not changed one bit Eddie....that must be clarified.

What do you think a woman of my age and circumstances and personality and social responsibility should do? Any philosophical belief or political belief in order to be effective must have 100% commitment in order to work. If I decide today to become a scientific socialist it would mean I would have to give up my religious beliefs, my profession (maybe), reconstruct my social and political circles, see if my husband would be willing to take on the intense scrutiny and difficulties a true Communist experiences in this discriminatory society...that might mean a lot of fallout as well. Cultural studies and ethnographers in anthropology Eddie are dedicated to studying religions, societies, symbols, rituals, ceremonies, myths etc. etc. If I wanted to be a hardcore hard evidence scientist within anthropology Eddie I would have been a paleontologist, or a
forensic anthropologist....dead objects and analysis of samples and non-symbolic or non-subjective interpretations of things never fascinated me Eddie. They are important aspects of human knowledge...but they don't ignite my deepest interests....what I love above all else Eddie is trying to understand why people believe subjective crap and why they believe it so strongly as to kill, die, hurt and lie and manipulate and at the same time get so creative in preserving that subjectively held truth. That is the world of cultural studies...culture is a human thing....it is a subjective thing....and it is powerful. That non-objective, irrational side of human psychology and society is what I am interested in Eddie. Why? Because that subjective crap is what keeps people doing things that are not just, rational or scientific yet it does not go away....it just does not go away...it keeps people from seeing communism as valid, it keeps people from seeing poor people as equals, it keeps people from seeing differences as unacceptable and a motive for discrimination and prejudice...it keeps people from transformation. It also can do the opposite.

If I commit to communism Eddie I would have to change a whole lot about who I am now. I would have to suffer as you have suffered to a certain degree. I would have to give up some of my truly sincere interests and passions. I would have to accept my beloved father as dead and not waiting for me somewhere when I die to see his face again. Because true communists think that when you die you die (you pay your price to mother nature). There is no fairyland where your soul goes to after you die. Oh, Eddie if I believed that I think his abscence would kill me after a while. You believe in what you believe in. I will always respect that. And to tell you the truth, I believe you have found something important and true in an absolute sense mi querido amigo...my path is different man. If I was going to make that decision I should have made it in my younger days. Now, the change would happen only if I were 100% committed to it and let all else burn away....I think you are that dedicated Eddie....I am not. I recognize that. I am too attached to my interests, my family and my dreams of getting out of the USA and doing my other plans to give it up for such a life....maybe if my life circumstances would have been different. But I can tell you one thing Eddie. I would never turn my back on a true and sincere Communist or Scientific Socialist with good intentions and true dedication. I would help them in every way I could. Maybe they would not need my help....I wish they would accept it anyway....that is all I can say my dear friend.

You certainly have made me revisit my politics and my life...and it is good. For it made me feel respect, admiration and understanding for scientific socialists. And it made me think that their contributions to human culture have been until now the most civilized and the most humane and the most ambitious and optimistic of all human societies. The true nuevo hombre. I am a novice in the subject and do not presume to see the depths of it all yet. I think as you once said living and walking down the path is different than just reading the ideas and the thoughts on paper....eso es muy distinto. Remember that letter I wrote you long ago? Eddie if you only want to have a electronic relationship with me to try to get me to share your admirable dedication to Scientific Socialism then you will disappoint me. I thought you liked interacting with me because you are my friend and mentor, if you think I am superficial and not worth your time anymore let me know. I will respect your decision. Por mi parte, yo te admiro y te respeto y me duele que nunca podre conocerte fuera de esta realidad computarizada. I think your influences are positive and good. I am a fully baked adult with a fairly intense past and present. I wish you were closer to me in every way. But this medium has its limits Eddie. And you are here on PR.com with a mission...a good one at that....lol. I think you are quite a person.

Quedo.

Suki.
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Old 9th September 2002, 22:14
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I never attempted a poem before....but for you eddie I will...lol

El Diamante

Algunas mentes se forjan en el carbon y las presiones de muchos tiempos,
la mayoria se hace carbon y se destroza y se quema facilmente,
Algunos usan sus sentimientos
como puas para penetrar el tiempo
y sus misterios,

Pero el Senor que se arraiga a la razon,
y la pureza de la objetividad,
tiene la mente afilada y dura como un diamante,
que corta con su espada de verdad,
todo lo que es blando y pasajero,

Para el Senor todo lo que es fortaleza,
dedicacion y sacrificio,
le trae dignidad y proposito,
a su mision,
Y se ira a su panteon con esas verdades,
interligadas a su mas profunda pasion,

Que hermoso hombre sereis Eduardo,
con tu espada de verdad,
y tu objetividad,
Ojala que mi amor y mi subjetividad nunca te
traigan ni una sola gota de disgusto,
solo quiero traerte un pequeno obsequio de
besos y afecto y dedicacion reconocida,
por tantos momentos de fortaleza

Me haz dado mucho mas de lo que jamas espere,
y en esto no hay titubeo,
solamente un profundo agradecimiento

En tu coronilla hallaras
mi bendicion,
Siempre,

Azuquita Vida....lol
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