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Old 1st July 2002, 12:40
El_Jibaro El_Jibaro is offline
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Talking Re: Most Marxists are Atheists and Materialists, so to quote Scripture on your part

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[i]seems to me shallow, unless you truely believe in the Inspirer of Scripture, God.

However, as I have been CENSORED too many times in this forum for of all things, presenting logical and rational arguments against the 2.8% cause, I don't think that you and your fellow comrades are really in favor of rational debate. That is why laughing at your microscopic cause is the only venue left to express my opinion on the subject .
Hey Camano-san, are you by the way "negraboricua69"[b] by any chance ?

Shouldn't you let her read and answer her own mail?
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Old 1st July 2002, 12:47
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Cool independentistas

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Old 1st July 2002, 12:54
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Talking Re: Re: Most Marxists are Atheists and Materialists, so to quote Scripture on your part

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[i]seems to me shallow, unless you truely believe in the Inspirer of Scripture, God.

However, as I have been CENSORED too many times in this forum for of all things, presenting logical and rational arguments against the 2.8% cause, I don't think that you and your fellow comrades are really in favor of rational debate. That is why laughing at your microscopic cause is the only venue left to express my opinion on the subject .
Hey Camano-san, are you by the way "negraboricua69" by any chance ?

Hey, Camano-sanano, shouldn't you let her read and answer her own mail?
Yeah, you must be "negraboricua69". Are you sixty nine years old, or were you born in 1969? The rest of the 69 conjectures I leave to filthy independentistas who are "identity-challeged" (like confusing themselves with someone else, like Camano and "negraboricua69" flip-flop...) to cough up .

Anyway, will the real
"negraboricua69"[b] answer her own mail?
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In Arabic click here: John 1:1-3

There is only one LORD - JESUS.


NEVER FORGET WHY WE FIGHT!

Manuel Alonso desde el jurutungo de Bairoa y PITIYANQUI de clavo pasao
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Old 1st July 2002, 13:46
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Thank you for your reply, Jibaro.

It is refreshing to see a clue of thought and allegiance to your colonizer. To begin, I am not a Marxist, although I am fairly versed in the writings of Karl Marx, as well as John Adams, Carl Jung and a few others who had something to say about people and society. I am not Atheist or a Materialist.

I believe we are in favor of rational debate, or else we wouldn’t be wasting our time in this forum.

As for my “microscopic cause,” I can only say the causes of Jesus and Moses were “microscopic” in their times as well. While I or anyone who believes in the Nationalist cause make no claim to Holy powers, it is the idea and the spirit of those few, free-thinking people and the historical and current will of the powers that be that casts a great shadow on your 97.2% figure.

I have never heard of any statehooder willing to die so that Puerto Rico becomes the 51st state. The truth is, the US probably wishes EVERY Puerto Rican died so they could simply take the land and not the debt. The elimination of our people would mean a pause in the infestation of US culture (whatever that is) with our sounds, language and food. However, this is hearsay.

Jibaro, Puerto Ricans have been lied to, cheated on and taken advantage of in every which way you can imagine. I shouldn’t have to give you the booklist, but I, or someone else will, if you need it. The US had military and economic reasons that were not made public to secretly invade and decimate the Nationalist and Independence party and ideology. Forget about the partisan issue once again. Let’s stick to the issue of morality and international laws, which the US continues to alter each day. If you truly read your US history, you know that the US is a government based on expansionism. Look at how the “West was Won!” Puerto Rico has always been an issue of opportunity, not the will of the people. Just read the debates that created the Foraker Act. While the independence movement was being decimated by federal operatives (this documented historical facts, not hearsay), the US government was lending and giving money and support to the infrastructure of the Island so the corporations could move quicker from our resources to their sales force in the US and around the world. Then, once the independence movement got practically eliminated, the US shows good face by “allowing” non-binding plebiscites to show how little was left of the independence movement and how much the US had to “offer”(as in bribe or extortion) the newly born materialist generation of Boricuas who, even if they live in a tiny cement casita with barely enough to eat, they “need” their three cars and wide screen TV.

Once again, where do we go from here?

The real quandary, my Jibaro hermano, is this: what is the contingency plan in the Statehood Party IF the US decides to never annex our Island into their Union? Just concentrate all your amassed intellect and memorized data on that simple question, Jibaro.

I promise, within reason, you will not be censored.

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Old 1st July 2002, 14:25
El_Jibaro El_Jibaro is offline
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Talking Ok, so you and the Camano guy are not linked.

[i]On JESUS (who is my God) and Moses, well, real men of God are always in the minority here on earth, and as you can see, in this forum, I am the minority. But, hey, in Heaven, 2/3 of all angels are still faithful to HIM.

JESUS did have a word that to his separatist fellow men did ticked them off the wrong way: "Give Caesar what belongs to Caesar and give GOD what belongs to GOD!" In Puerto Rico, most things have been built on the backs of U.S. Taxpayers, so I say, "give Washington what belongs to it".

The reason why am Estadista is simple, and it is not a function of materialism
(like the Marxist Doctrine is ...). I want my People to have at least 7 Congressmen (five Representatives and two Senators), so that my People have access to the Power that rules them. I also want my People to be able to choose the President that will draft their sons and daughters in the next big war. Since 97.2% of the Puerto Rican People love to be a PERMANENT PART of the United States and have said so unequivocally until now, there is no better way to guarantee that their rights and duties are performed and respected fully than to be a FEDERATED STATE.

That bad things in Puerto Rico were done by the U.S. Government in the past, yes, they were. But I choose not to have my thoughts dwell in the Puerto Rico of 60 years ago. I rather want to see the Puerto Rico we have ever since 1952, a Puerto Rico that has changed alot, and a Federal Government that on the most part has had honorable dealings with Puerto Rico during that time.

That the Navy short-changed Vieques in the last 65 years? Well, it also short-changed me , but I also realize that it is not the entire Federal Government, and for its blunders it is paying now and it will pay for during the next 60 years. The big problem is that the U.S. Navy has full access to the Executive and Legislative branches of our Republic and Puerto Rico does not. If Puerto Rico had all the powers of a Federated State, this neglect that the Navy has perpetrated would probably not happened at all.

Now, that being said, right now, as we fight for our own SAFETY and FREEDOM threatened by men filled with hate and bent on world domination, a.k.a., Militant Islam, I have to side with the Navy, for their past stupidity does not deny the FACT that they SERVE ME, the American Citizen. It is much like the New York Police Department
(which is full of flaws and weaknesses)[b], I rather trust the NYPD than trust the Italian Mafia which insidiously rules here in the Northeast. Hey, I rather trust a drunk cop than a Puerto Rican Hoodloom with his Pit-Bull roaming on my street, at least the drunk cop is more accountable than the Hoodloom.
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In Arabic click here: John 1:1-3

There is only one LORD - JESUS.


NEVER FORGET WHY WE FIGHT!

Manuel Alonso desde el jurutungo de Bairoa y PITIYANQUI de clavo pasao
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Old 1st July 2002, 16:05
Guaili-Cayniabon Guaili-Cayniabon is offline
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On JESUS (who is my God) and Moses, well, real men of God are always in the minority here on earth, and as you can see, in this forum, I am the minority. But, hey, in Heaven, 2/3 of all angels are still faithful to HIM.
[i]I agree with you on this one "Manny". When you say "Real men of God are always in the minority here on earth", because as you can see in Puerto Rico, we Independentistas are the minority. But, hey, in our Isla del Encanto atleast us Independentistas are still faithful to our patria and it's God given right to be a free nation and have its independence and sovereignty.

Atentamente,

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Old 1st July 2002, 21:25
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Thumbs up negraboricua69

I love your writing style. You get straight to the point and you use analogies terrifically. Good job, and thanks for the picture and website!
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