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Old 28th June 2002, 17:20
negraboricua69 negraboricua69 is offline
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Por empezar, Jíbaro, ¿por qué no usas el idioma de tu colonizador? Es lo que “Uncle Sam” desea y requiere para un estado.

As a potential sovereign nation, and as the prospective role model and trade leader of Latin America, it’s imperative that Puerto Rico not only master English, but Portuguese as well. The last thing a Boricua nation should do is follow the myopic linguistic practices of the United States.

Anyway, to the issue at hand. Jíbaro, I hope that you are aware that only an act from the United States Congress would annex Puerto Rico into its union. Pesquera could plant 10 million U.S. flags all over the Island and Puerto Rico would still be a colony. And at least that’s one thing that both sides can agree on — the ELA is reaching its boiling point and cooking this baby any longer is not going to yield a better feast. In asking for more power, the PPD/ELA has hit a wall.

Where do we go from here? Tell me, Jíbaro, are we going to force our way into the United States? Is Pesquera ready to hand paint the 51st star on every U.S. flag in the nation and throughout the world? I don’t think so.

The statehood party tried for eight years straight in the last century to advance their cause, as they lead Puerto Rico’s government. How much has changed regarding the status?

This is no longer about who’s right and who’s wrong; forget the whole partisan issue and simply look at the facts, look at history and look at the attitude of the U.S. Congress — they don’t want a state of jíbaros! That’s how they see it. Of course, we are so much more.

It’s time to evolve. It’s time to take Puerto Rico to the next historical level of existence. If that level, that destiny, were the 51st state of the United States, it would have happened during the Cold War. Now, and especially in this economy, there is less reason to incorporate Puerto Rico into the United States union.

So what then? Remain a colony, ELA, territory, possession or whatever else you or they want to call it?

In history, stranger things have happened than a modern, industrialized territory of 4 million well-educated people becoming a nation.

Si, se puede.

My love, my blood and my life for mi nación Boricua.

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Old 28th June 2002, 18:46
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Post Constitutional Provision

The relevant constitutional provision is Article IV section 3:

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

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Old 28th June 2002, 21:39
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I’m not sure how this applies to Puerto Rico or how it goes against the point that negraboricua is making. So far as the “…parts of other States…within Jurisdiction of other States…Legislatures of the States…” non of that applies. The biggest point here is “Admitted by Congress” as in, Congress having the will, sanction, desire, itch in their collective right-side butt cheek or whatever to exercise their sovereign power to make that happen. Had it been in the interest of the U.S. Congress to “Admit” Puerto Rico into its Union, it would have happened.

I was glad to see negraboricua’s post as I have made this very same argument before on a number of occasions (including in Nuyorico.com…what happened to that site?) Of course, I continue to support this position (like a fan in a baseball game)— the status question has been bounced around for a very long time without much progress. The Island and its people have progressed a great deal, while maintaining their culture and identity, and that’s beautiful. However, what now? As we all know, the U.S. will not “grant” more autonomous powers (international trade, etc.) to the ELA, but Puerto Rico cannot keep up with today’s globalized society when its trapped in this hamster wheel within the United States. And when you point to San Juan’s great multinational corporations, just keep in mind, they are not Puerto Rican-owned concerns. Puerto Ricans just work there. Sure, the Island has been fed well (!) and defended against those “rogue nations” that wanted to crash the parties at Lupi’s, but what now, indeed? Well, who cares?

By the way, can anyone tell me why I can’t get a Medalla (beer) in New York but I can find Budweiser and Coors Light in every corner of the Island at any time? It’s so pathetic. Puerto Rico is a breeding ground for Spanish-speaking consumers of U.S. products. Take away the language, the food and the music and what do you have? This is why Puerto Ricans are so fanatical about their flag — there’s not a whole lot more there.

Well, this whole status crap has grown tiresome. There was a time when I really cared. Now, I just want to make money, like the good U.S. citizen that I am.

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Old 29th June 2002, 00:18
Ecuajey Ecuajey is offline
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negraboricua69,

Very well written diatribe! E-mail me anytime!

Rafa3x

Yeah, what ever happened to Nuyorico.com? lol! I participated in that website too for a very short time. What was your name there?
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Old 1st July 2002, 12:25
negraboricua69 negraboricua69 is offline
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Thank you, Ecuahey and Rafa3x.

I too rember Nuyorico.com. I believe it was coming out of El Barrio, in New York City. In any case, we need to continue our thinking, our words and our efforts. Speaking of which, I spotted someone in El Condado wearing this cool T-shirt that read, "Antillano" and had a picture of Betances in the background with a bird in the foreground painted with the flags of P.R., D.R. and Cuba. It was striking. I asked the person where he got and he said from the 116 Street festival in New York. Seems like we have a lot of progressive brothers and sisters out there.

This is the logo from the Web address the T-shirt had at the bottom. Seems interesting.



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Old 1st July 2002, 12:32
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Talking ¿República de Puerto Rico sin el apoyo del 97.2% del Pueblo?

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Old 1st July 2002, 12:37
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Cool "El Jibaro's" Garbage

The national government of the US informed the colonial government of PR if "Uncle Sam" can send it there.

I could imagine "Jibaro's" loyalist friends waving US
flags in order to have US garbage in the island.
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