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Old 13th September 1999, 10:14
BEECHO BEECHO is offline
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MACHETEROS, THIS IS A WARNING!

IF YOU KILL ANYBODY OR DO ANYTHING AGAINST THE US GOVERMENT, ALL I CAN SAY THAT I'LL BE YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE, WATCH YOUR BACK jack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 13th September 1999, 14:26
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I'm wondering where all your faith in the US government comes from. And do you know enough about these people to make a statement like this? I certainly am no expert on this subject but I think it's really important to look at things from all different sides and keep propaganda in mind--always look between the lines, especially with the media!
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Old 13th September 1999, 18:50
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First of all we have to get a few things straight before I can respond to your reply. Number one, how old are you and what do YOU know about the US government, do you even live in the US? Number two, you had better do your research before defending people that you yourself know NOTHING about! And last but not least, I am in the US military and know more about the US government than you could ever read in any book thus making part of my job to defend the US from enemies both foreign and domestic just so that you can exercise your freedom of speach which you do not deserve because you haven't done anything to earn it, and I am most likely your elder so you should learn from me and not question my reasons because you are too immature to understand why! So until, YOU can say the same for yourself, don't go judging people that you know NOTHING about.
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Old 13th September 1999, 18:58
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By the way, anyone who kills anyone deserves to die, regardless of whether or not they are Puertorican or whether or not people in the past were treated in the same way! "Terrorist" are the lowest form of life, and especially terrorists that take vendeta in their own country. What good does it do to shed the blood of your own kind? Even if they directly didn't pull the trigger or set of the bombs, consider this: what if someone hired someone to kill a member of your family, but didn't directly pull the trigger, would your family member had died if it were not for the hiring of the killer? The person who arranged it is the real murderer. If it were not for the cooperation of the "ENTIRE" members of the macheteros no one would have been killed!
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Old 13th September 1999, 20:07
El_Jibaro El_Jibaro is offline
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Beany Baby:

I can see you are still in your crib sucking your “bobito”. When I was loosing my first baby teeth thirty years ago the “marxistas” of Puerto Rico were exploding their first bombs around the University of Puerto Rico, Rio Piedras campus (there was a student strike then). I remember having to stay at home because of the fear in the general population when those events happened. As the 1970’s went along there was one airline highjack after another by some Leftist group or another. I tell you, it was more dangerous to be in Puerto Rico than to be in the middle of Vietnam back then. I remember the newspaper “Claridad”, sold by family members, so thick with violent marxist rhetoric. I even remember hearing family members, that after reading “Claridad” talked joyfully of the day when socialism would come into power and do a cleansing of society even if it had kill millions (and the Killing Fields just began back then). I wonder why those same socialists that used to voice their support for such rhetoric in those years (Mari Bras, Gallisa…) are so quiet now about the Killing Fields of Cambodia. These are the same folk that want the Navy out; hey they want the entire U.S. out of Puerto Rico. Well, beginning in the 1980 I remember being in college when the Macheteros bombed the National Guard airplanes out in the International Airport. Even I felt some awe at their daring act. But later they shot a bus filled with some recruits down in Sabana Seca, and that was a nasty act. There was no end to what these guys could do. At that moment the Puerto Rican people got fed up, and even Mari Bras had to admit that there was no public support for these actions. The Machetero jerks got arrested in the middle of the night by the FBI, and political violence in Puerto Rico was not heard again for the next 15 years. Now we have a jerk leftist President [Clinton], with an elitist attitude [nobody knows better than him what Puerto Rico wants or needs, his heart is full of compassion for these poor souls rotting in jail because of their righteous cause… he is the “papá” of all, just like papa Stalin]. Nah, Beany Baby, you don’t know what Puerto Rico is, or what this violent political movement is. Clinton thinks that Puerto Rico is Ireland, with lots of Puerto Ricans backing these guys, and what he ignores is that these guys represent less than one percent of the population, that not even the other nine percent of those favoring Independence don’t want to be associated with them. That with these guys in jail the Puerto Rican terrorist movement was nipped in the bud. I will not be surprised if in less than five years terrorism sky-rockets in la Isla del Encanto, not by these old timers, but by the new jerks they inspire. And they will only make matters difficult for us who are in the States, trying to make a living far away from home [may be because Puerto Rico is a difficult place to find a future because of our very patronizing culture – you can’t get anywhere there without a good “Pala”]. Beany Baby, go to a good library at a big university and read the news-paper archives, and study the history of Puerto Rico: you will notice that the Leftist Movement has been very intertwined to Separatism, and that they really only do a lip service of looking for what is best for our People. And then some people do not want to know or hear the Truth.

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Manuel Alonso
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Old 14th October 1999, 07:08
F_D_B F_D_B is offline
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Beecho
You make a very good point. However, we cannot forget what happened in Chicago or in Cerro Maravilla, when undercover agents were directly involved in planning certain acts. Violence is wrong for any cause, but we should not overlook the times when agencies responsible for protecting us decide to cross the line.
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Old 18th October 1999, 23:33
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Un par de cositas:

1. Quienes fomentaban la violencia en la huelga de la UPR eran policías disfrazados de estudiantes. Muchos verdaderos estudiantes llegaron a agarrar a estos individuos, que estaban tirando piedras y disparos, y cuando les chequearon la tarjeta de identidad, la misma era falsa. Incluso un policía mató a una muchacha sólo porque ella intervino (con palabras, sin violencia) a defender a un estudiante.

2. ¿Recuerdan que el edificio donde estaba el periódico Claridad fue volado por un terrorista de derecha de los tiempos de Ferré? Así mismo fue.

3. Pueden estar tranquilos en que esos "encubiertos" no le hacen ningún buen servicio a la democracia ni al pueblo puertorriqueño. Son peores que los mismos terroristas. Para que recuerden, se descubrió que los dos jóvenes que mataron en Maravilla, a última hora, se habían arrepentido de ir allí, pero el "encubierto" Malavé los fustigó para que fueran. El encubierto espera a que se cometa el crimen en su propia cara, no a estimularlo.

4. Un terrorista de derecha de la Marina de EU puso una bomba en el Colegio de Abogados para la época de los arrestos en Vieques en el '79. Fue de la Marina, no un machetero, por si acaso.

5. Blanton Whimpship, gobernador de EU en Puerto Rico para los '30, planificó y llevó a cabo las masacres de Río Piedras y Ponce en el '37. Su plan se descubrió por fotos tomadas por reporteros de El Imparcial y El Mundo. Están en la Enciclopedia de Puerto Rico. Fíjense que fue un estadounidense de derecha, no un nacionalista.

Si sigo, no acabo.
Y vienen más.

SaudadePR
¡Viva Puerto Rico Libre!
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