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Old 8th March 2003, 21:21
LatinoPR LatinoPR is offline
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Suki,

I feel what you mean. However, consumerism has taken over our human dignity. Do not get me wrong, I like to have things only if I know I can enjoy them or have saved for it. I have work very hard for what I have, which is not that much. I truly believe that education is the key to success, but in the case of Puerto Rico, there is so much that an educated individual can do. As you know the island is over populated and there is not enough work to go around. This could happen to any country that is over populated. That is one reason why I left. That is reality and it happens all over the world. Those that sell drugs have no dignity and self worth. Their reasoning not to work and start from the bottom is an excuse to live a life of self denial. I have always believed in working hard, studying, and live a life of non-excessive consumerism. Many Puertorriqueños in the mainland have lost that desire to be better. I know, I lived 14 years in New York and saw a lot of us not wanting to go up the ladder. I saw many just wanting to live off welfare and not push their children to be better, even though the numbers of educated second and third generation Puertorriqueños is going up. Others who are educated prefer to work in jobs that do not pay that much, because money is not a motivator for them. Human dignity is what raise many on the island from poverty in the 50s and 60s. There wasn’t rampant drug use or trafficking as there is now.
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Old 9th March 2003, 09:09
ReddPR ReddPR is offline
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Re: Is the problem Statehood? YES IT IS!

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ReddPr, can I give you a suggestion? When quoting from sources be careful what sources you use. The Washington Tiems is not The Washington Post. The Washington Times is a right-wing rag who employs none other then Linda Chavez as one of it's star columnists.
Would you rather have me quote a left-wing newspaper?

There is fact and there is opinion. Ruben Berrios, Pesquera, and Satan can each write an article containing both fact and opinion.

But yes. You are right. We ARE quite dependent on Federal funds. That's a fact. BUT... they ARE earning a hell lot of money from us. That's also a fact.
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Old 12th March 2003, 16:46
L_F_Miranda L_F_Miranda is offline
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Re: Re: Is the problem Statehood? YES IT IS!

An indignant ReddPR said:

Would you rather have me quote a left-wing newspaper?
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No I don't care from what sources you quote from but before quoting, if I were you, I would make some investigations.

I don't seem understand why Statehooders ADORE American conservatives, without realizing that these conservatives prefer to get rid of the island before granting it statehood.

For example, a paper who features Linda Chavez as one of it's star columnists must be desperate for writers or doesn't care a damn about Puerto Ricans who think like YOU.

Papers like these give a mouth piece to those that go against your ideology, but here you are swearing by it's contents!

Why are you so gung-ho thinking the Washington Times is middle of the road? With a Linda Chavez on it's staff Staehooders don't need enemies. A couple of anti-statehood columns by this chick is enough to destroy 10 years of Statehood campaigning in Washington.

You have more chances with a radical leftist paper that supports "Estadidad Radical" than a conservative rag that's supported by the GOP and LINDA CHAVEZ.


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Old 12th March 2003, 19:07
Suki Suki is offline
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Miranda

My mother Yautia debated on radio a few times with Linda Chavez and ever since then the thought of Puerto Rican statehood freaked her out (Mom did a good job many years ago getting all the conservatives against statehood). JAJAJA. I think Yautia painted such a picture of Puerto Rican statehood that horrified that ultra right wing woman to the point of being outspoken against statehood forever.

I still have an old tape of the debate somewhere. JAJA.
Thanks for reminding me of that Chavez woman. She got so agitated that she refused to continue debating with Yautia, and promised to make sure Yautia's wishes of independence would be promoted among the ultra right wing. I say that was one good victory for independence. Now the statehooders should work a lot harder selling their losing propositions on the hill. Especially with the Chavez crowd.

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Old 12th March 2003, 21:11
Ecuajey Ecuajey is offline
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For example, a paper who features Linda Chavez as one of it's star columnists must be desperate for writers or doesn't care a damn about Puerto Ricans who think like YOU
LOL!

If the Washington Times is so conservative and anti-statehood (Where did Reddpr write he supports statehood? I can't see that anywhere, nor does he infer it. He only wrote that the USA makes a lot off PR, which is true. I'm an independentista and I know that and so is he as well as a leftist, lol. Before you point fingers here, I think you should, just like you told Reddpr, do some investigating on the person first. ) then why did they allow Anibal Acevedo Vidal write in it something that's obviously trying to tell the USA public how much their relationship with PR should be important to them? (I'm not trying to deny that the Washington Times isn't a conservative newspaper, I just find it contradictory and curious why they have writers with two different goals and ideologies while promoting, supposedly, conservatism.)
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