Puerto Rico elections 2004

[Ecuajey]

Who will or would you vote for Governor?:


1) Dr. Pedro Rosselló González - PNP


2) Aníbal Acevedo Vilá - PPD


3) Rúben Berríos Martínez - PIP

[Eddier1]

Originally posted by Ecuajey
Who will or would you vote for Governor?:


1) Dr. Pedro Rosselló González - PNP


2) Aníbal Acevedo Vilá - PPD


3) Rúben Berríos Martínez - PIP

Well way back then, when Ruben and the PIP first ran against Luis Munoz Marin, even before there was an ELA, I gave my one and only vote to Ruben Berrios Martinez. And that was part of the greatest quantity of votes he ever received, which was cerca 35% of the voting then. And cuchin, later to become el cacique, almost had a heart attack. Ruben was in his twenties in age at the time, and Luis much older saw a fainting glimpse of the end of his career. But alas, it wasn't to be, and on came the Commonwealth party, the same that is in power according to the latest breaking news.

That was the last time I voted in Puerto Rico, because my destiny called me to other lands, only one of them being the EE.UU.. So now, if I retire to say Jajuya, et al, in the near future, and after the months necessary for
qualifying to vote, I will give my vote once again to the PIP and its leader Ruben Berrios Martinez. I know he is old, but honorable, something I can't say especially with regard to that sinverquenza of a crook, dizque, Rossello, who has let others take the fall in prison for himself.

HACIA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE BORICUAS, VENCEREMOS!
Soy Puertorriqueno y Punto; y Realista Social.
EddieR

[Joshue]

Originally posted by Ecuajey
Who will or would you vote for Governor?:


1) Dr. Pedro Rosselló González - PNP


2) Aníbal Acevedo Vilá - PPD


3) Rúben Berríos Martínez - PIP

LOS TRES NO VALEN NA!!!!!,

Sumergen a Puerto rico en la estupida Politiqueria que Hypnotisa al pueblo, mientras no hacen un carajo para las crisis necesarias y obvias de nuestra isla sufre Como la porqueria de economia que tenemos y la criminalidad sin mencionar otras.
UNA JATA DE C@BR0NES, ES LO QUE SON.
Perdonen si ofendi a alguien con mi lenguage, pero muchos saben aqui que esta es mi zona de ira y desilucion.

[Ecuajey]

Originally posted by Eddier1
Well way back then, when Ruben and the PIP first ran against Luis Munoz Marin, even before there was an ELA, I gave my one and only vote to Ruben Berrios Martinez. And that was part of the greatest quantity of votes he ever received, which was cerca 35% of the voting then. And cuchin, later to become el cacique, almost had a heart attack. Ruben was in his twenties in age at the time, and Luis much older saw a fainting glimpse of the end of his career. But alas, it wasn't to be, and on came the Commonwealth party, the same that is in power according to the latest breaking news.

Ok, you wrote "Well way back then, when Ruben and the PIP first ran against Luis Munoz Marin, even before there was an ELA..." Ok, el Estado Libre Asociado was established on July 25, 1952. Before then, Puerto Rico only had one election for Governor in 1948. Here are those results from the Comisión Estatal de Elecciones de Puerto Rico:

Elecciones Generales de 1948

Gobernador de Puerto Rico

Luis Muñoz Marín (Partido Popular Democrático) 392,386 61.2%

Martín Travieso (Partido Estadista Puertorriqueño) 89,441 14.0%
Martín Travieso (Partido Socialista) 64,396 10.1%
Martín Travieso (Partido Reformista Puertorriqueño) 29,140 4.5%
Martín Travieso (Total Combinado) 182,977 28.6%

Francisco M. Susoni (Partido Independentista Puertorriqueño) 65,351 10.2%

Total: 640,714

As you can see, Rubén Berríos Martínez was not running for Governor in 1948, nor did the PIP gain near "35%" of the vote, but only 10.2%. In the elections of 1952, the PIP, under Fernando Milán, Hijo, only got 19% of the vote, which is the highest the PIP ever achieved. That election year was after the ELA was proclaimed. Rubén Berríos Martínez didn't run for PIP Governor until 1976 when he got 83,037 or 5.7% of the votes, which is the highest he ever received in the four times he ran for Governor. Also, he ran against Carlos Romeró Barceló, (PNP) Rafael Hernández Colón, (PPD) and Juan Mari Bras, (PSP) not Luis Muñoz Marín.

Therefore, Rubén never ran for Governor before the ELA, never ran against Don Luis, and nor he or the PIP ever achieved near 35% in a PR election.

[b]For more information: Elecciones 1948-2000

[Eddier1]

Don't believe everything you read, nor misinterpret what was called the first election for gobernador. It was nothing more than a primary to determine who was the candidate with the most popularity to replace the then American governor in office. Luis won that primary of popularity and Berrios, then only in his twenties, was selected to run against him in the first valid election for Gobernador de Puerto Rico. Of course, the confusion over the almost 35% of the votes that the PIP received unnerved the supporters of Luis, el Cuchin, so much that they in subsequent years have lied through their comillos so that Luis would always come up smelling like roses. The only 10% supposedly gotten by the PIP was the damnest lie of all, and it besmirches with corruption the first valid election with a two party system (ala American style) that Puerto Rico ever had for Gobernador.

Later, if you know some history, and don't believe all the fairy tales you read by politicos with an ELA bias, you will comprehend the buying and selling of votes corruption that the PPD did throughout all the long years the ELA was in power. It is a disgrace, big time. And Puerto Rico from day one has been clouded in that disgrace of corruption, lies, subterfuge, and even murder or assassination ordered by CUCHIN. Again I repeat don't believe everything your have read from the PPD sources. They are quintessential politicians who are born LIARS.

[Ecuajey]

Originally posted by Eddier1
Don't believe everything you read, nor misinterpret what was called the first election for gobernador. Luis won that primary of popularity and Berrios, then only in his twenties, was selected to run against him in the first valid election for Gobernador de Puerto Rico. Of course, the confusion over the almost 35% of the votes that the PIP received unnerved the supporters of Luis, el Cuchin...

Sorry, but I rather believe government sources than just some guy over the internet.

Anyway, Berríos never ran for Governor against Luis Muñoz Marín. Even if that first Governor election was a "primary," Berríos didn't run against Don Luis in 1952, or 56, or 60, nor 64 when Don Luis last ran. Berríos showed up in 1976. Anyway, I also believe in your accounts of lying, bribery, politiking...etc, but where did the 35% come from? If you don't believe in official sources, then how did you come up with the 35%? Also, when exactly was Berríos born and what year did this supposed election against Don Luis take place?

[Eddier1]

Looks like your existing in a time-line and not real-time. So you want to believe whom you want to believe. It's no skin off of my nose. I know what my experiences were back in those old days, and that is all that concerns me.

This is suppose to be a poll of sorts, and you have stooped to creating an argument about whom I voted for in the past, and whom I will vote for in the future. You don't like Berrios Martinez, obviously, and that is your own personal choice. However, since this is a poll and not a test, I stand by what is my choice in the next election. And it is the same one that I voted for in the URNAS way back then. You don't like my choice, too bad; it still stands as my vote.

HACIA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE BORICUAS, VENCEREMOS!
Soy Puertorriqueno y Punto; y Realista Social.
EddieR