CIA to be dismantled?

[Juracan21]

Senate Republicans Weigh Dismantling CIA

By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Senate Intelligence Committee Republicans proposed removing the nation's largest intelligence gathering operations from the CIA and the Pentagon and putting them directly under a new national intelligence director.

Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., the committee chairman, unveiled on Sunday the most sweeping intelligence reorganization proposal offered by anyone since the Sept. ll commission called for major changes. In an appearance on CBS' "Face the Nation", Roberts acknowledged that full details had yet to be shared with either the White House or with Senate Democrats.

"We didn't pay attention to turf or agencies or boxes" but rather to "what are the national security threats that face this country today", Roberts said of the bill endorsed by eight GOP members of the intelligence committee. "I'm trying to build a consensus around something that's very different and very bold."

But he immediately ran into some resistance from a Democrat on his own committee. Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., said that before appearing with Roberts on the CBS show neither he nor the committee's ranking Democrat, Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, had seen the full proposal.

"I think it would be better to start on a bipartisan basis," Levin said. "I think it's a mistake to begin with a partisan bill no matter what is in it."

The commission that investigated the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks called for a powerful national intelligence director who could force the nation's many agencies to cooperate.

Up to now the debate has focused on how much power to give that official rather than on retooling agencies. Most Democrats have supported the commission's proposal that the new director have authority over hiring and spending by the intelligence agencies. President Bush has endorsed creating the position but has not reached a final decision on what powers the office should have.

Roberts said his aides had spoken with White House officials and would share the details of his proposal with them on Monday.

Roberts' bill would take the CIA's three main directorates - Operations, which runs intelligence collection and covert actions; Intelligence, which analyzes intelligence reports; and Science and Technology - and puts them into new, separate and renamed agencies, each reporting to a separate assistant national intelligence director. It also would remove three of the largest intelligence agencies from the Pentagon.

Although the measure would essentially dismantle the CIA, Roberts said in a paper he released: "We are not abolishing the CIA. We are reordering and renaming its three major elements."

"No one agency, no matter how distinguished its history, is more important than U.S. national security," the paper said.

Equally drastic changes were proposed at the Pentagon.

The nation's largest spy agency, the National Security Agency, which intercepts electronic signals around the world, and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, which analyzes satellite pictures, would be removed from the Pentagon and put under direct control of an assistant national intelligence director for collection.

The Defense Intelligence Agency's human intelligence collection activity would become a separate agency, like the former CIA directorate of operations.

Both would report to the same assistant national intelligence director for collection. This official also would have direct line control over the FBI's counterintelligence and counterterrorism units, although they would continue to operate within the FBI administratively and would still be subject to attorney general guidelines.

The Pentagon's huge National Reconnaissance Office, which operates spy satellites, would work under an assistant national intelligence director for Research, Development and Acquisition. That same assistant would also run the CIA's former directorate of science and technology as an independent agency called the Office of Technical Support.

In a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing last week, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld advised moving cautiously in restructuring the intelligence community.

"If we move unwisely and get it wrong, the penalty would be great," Rumsfeld said. "We would not want to place new barriers or filters between military combatant commanders and those agencies when they perform as combat-support agencies."

Perhaps mindful of that warning, Roberts' plan would create a separate assistant national intelligence director for military support and a four-star director of military intelligence who would run Defense Department tactical intelligence units and report directly to the defense secretary.

[Eddier1]

Dismantle the central intelligence agency of the U.S.?...in my honest opinion that will never happen in the U.S.. It is an agency that is very well established since the second World War, and knows so much that the public and perhaps even the gov't will never know, especially those Congressmen who were foolish enough to give up their Constitutional rights to be the only legislating body that had the right to declare war.

These store window dummies, now only showing up to collect their salaries, turned that right over to the executive branch, i.e., to GWB, who on his sole determination, as only one man, now has the right to commit the entire armed forces of the U.S. to invade and conquer any nation on the face of this planet.

He is the new Caesar who can also be a changling into an Atilla the Hun in high tech as he did in the invasion of Iraq. The cia knows all of this and has let leak to the media, an unprecedent leak that the agency has never denied doing, that the U.S. is now governed by a white house administration that is a "bunch of crazies". For one man to have the right to declare war is TOO MUCH POWER FOR ONE MAN AND IS DICTATORIAL. PUNTO Y SE ACABO!


HACIA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE BORICUAS, VENCEREMOS!
SOY PUERTORRIQUENO Y PUNTO; Y REALISTA SOCIAL.
EDDIE R.

[TainoWarriorRPR]

I have satellite and they talk about that on CNN sometimes. They are taking this terrorist threat way to serious. IF they would only stop ****ing the world maybe they would not have to worry. But, thats gringo politics for you.

[Nacionalista]

Disbanding the CIA will be a big mistake, unless they just change the name of the agency.

If the CIA was let alone with its way of dealing with US Threats, they could had taken care of Osama long time ago.

[YAUTIAPR]

[quote]Originally posted by Nacionalista
[b]Disbanding the CIA will be a big mistake, unless they just change the name of the agency.

If the CIA was let alone with its way of dealing with US Threats, they could had taken care of Osama long time ago.

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You got it right, the only thing they are going to change is the name, la misma movida que la escuela de los asesinos.

And as far as taking care of Osama, dicen por ahi que la razon que no pueden encontrar a Osama es que sus cuates de la CIA, y tiene bastante, lo tienen bien guardaito.

La CIA no esta feliz con la manera que se esta llevando a cabo esta guerrita en Irak y ellos tienen su propia agenda.

Dicen por ahi, que la guerra pica y se extiende porque la CIA esta dividido y hay agentes en ambos campos de esta guerra contra el terror.

Pa mi, que esto es "business as "usual" layer against layer y a Dios que reparta suerte!

Yautia

[AnotherRican]

Originally posted by YAUTIAPR

You got it right, the only thing they are going to change is the name, la misma movida que la escuela de los asesinos.

And as far as taking care of Osama, dicen por ahi que la razon que no pueden encontrar a Osama es que sus cuates de la CIA, y tiene bastante, lo tienen bien guardaito.

La CIA no esta feliz con la manera que se esta llevando a cabo esta guerrita en Irak y ellos tienen su propia agenda.

Dicen por ahi, que la guerra pica y se extiende porque la CIA esta dividido y hay agentes en ambos campos de esta guerra contra el terror.

Pa mi, que esto es "business as "usual" layer against layer y a Dios que reparta suerte!

Yautia

Oye, Yautia... suenas mas y mas como un izquierdista fundamentalista arrematada!

You still have not told us what is YOUR plan to stop terrorism.

I'm still waiting...

[Nacionalista]

[quote]Originally posted by YAUTIAPR
[b]

Originally posted by Nacionalista
Disbanding the CIA will be a big mistake, unless they just change the name of the agency.

If the CIA was let alone with its way of dealing with US Threats, they could had taken care of Osama long time ago.

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You got it right, the only thing they are going to change is the name, la misma movida que la escuela de los asesinos.

Yautia

Yautia, la SOA no tiene nada similar a la CIA. No creas todo lo que dicen en contra de la escuela porque no es verdad.

Ya que se supo que muchos de los organizadores en contra de la SOA le estaban dando dinero a los terroristas Al-Quida.

Ya que mencionastes la escuela de los asesinos, para los que no saben lo que es, es el nombre que le dan a la Escuela de la Americas.

Para decirte mas, yo fui intructor en esa escuela por mas de 48 meses cuando estaba localizada en Fort Gulick, Republica de Panama, en los 80's.

Ahora esta localizada en Fort Benning, GA, con el nombre en ingles Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation.

Me da pena que dos o tres perros le dieron el mal nombre a la escuela, ya que la mayoria de los estudiantes son buenos y estan usando lo que aprendieron para proteger sus patrias mejor.

Ahora que tenemos el problema de los terroristas, la Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation tiene la mission de adiestrar a todos los ejercitos latinoamericanos para protegerse contra ellos, y al mismo tiempo mantener los terroristas fuera de los bordes de los EEUU.