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Old 25th March 2000, 07:16
Mike_Coordero Mike_Coordero is offline
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As I was watching the Puerto Rican new they began to show the FBI, US troops, and
other US agency about to move in. The demonstrators began to call the PR Government, and other groups in Vieques not to move and to get ready for the attack. One of the demonstrators said that they had there guns out ready to shoot, showing faces of anger only. He said, Like they wanted to kill us all. But the US troops pull back once they saw that they were talking to the PR Government. Like someone in the government told them to pull back.
Later the PNP government said that they were only preacting which is a violation of the peace agreement. Wow, I couldn’t believe that they were treating our people this way. The worst part is that the PNP new about this weeks ago but didn’t say anything. Thousand could have been kill. The good news is the no groups in Vieques left there spot. Like if they were ready to die for there true country, Puerto Rico.
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Old 25th March 2000, 11:35
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Well Mike,

I see not much changes with you here I find you again preaching of what you see on TV or what someone else tell you that happened.

US troops do no follow orders of the Puerto Rican government, you should know this, the PRPD and the PRNG does do not try to fool some one who might read your topic with this poorly founded information.

I as a Puerto Rican am glad that nothing came about this incident but when something does happen you are going to be the first to point your finger on to the wrong direction, it is your fault and the fault the leaders of any political party that has driven any person into this situation and by the way it is a dangerous situation none the less, but you would know nothing concening this because you are so into defending a country that is still a dream a dream that will lead so many to there death for those of you that will come to live and talk about it but will not be the ones to bleed for it.

You people dare call yourselfs Puerto Ricans you first talk about winning this problem by voting for it, then you call on for a Braveheart, then it is for Ganhdi now it is the people are willing to die for there true country Puerto Rico, Please speak with sense and dignity how can you support this ridiculous situation it would take a person like you a true "FANATIC" with no sense of reality.

You are right that many things have come from dreaming but how many have remained only dreams? have you ever come to think of this.

Remember this that if it reaches a physical conflict, do not blame the U.S. or its Navy or its armed forces blame people like yourself that do not care what is the cost and whom will have to pay has long as you get what you want with those who think like you that still in this modern day are less then 10% of any population.
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Old 25th March 2000, 17:25
EL_BORICUA EL_BORICUA is offline
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I WOULDNT WORRY ABOUT IT MIKE,THE NAVY SAYS
ITS THE JUSTICE DEPT. JOB TO GET PROTESTERS OUT,THEY DO NOT WANT TO DO IT UNTIL THE NAVY
HOLDS THEIR PRACTICE THERE,THEY WILL EVENTUALLY,BUT THEY KNOW THEIR DAMNED IF THEY DO,AND THEIR DAMNED IF THEY DONT,I THINK
ITS GREAT THEY LOST VIEQUES AND THEY KNOW IT.
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Old 26th March 2000, 18:21
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I just knew it the when Mike write something the you were going to attack him again. I have family there and they told me it was true. Everything the Mike said was true. I don’t think Mike is a fanatic. He just try to inform us all about what is happening over there. What is wrong with the? If there is a conflict it would be USA fault only.
And they know this. It would show not only to our people but to the world that us forces have not change at all. Like El Boricu said, its the justice dep job to do it. My family there said the they are building radar’s in the areas where they where support to return to the people.
It shows to me the that US forces are not planning to give any land back which
would be a big mistake. It look like the arm forces would do what they want
with no respect to the people living there. Maybe someday they would make a
movie of this call, HOW USA LOST PUERTO RICO, and it would become
the best picture of the year.
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Old 27th March 2000, 11:28
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David,

My boy, I must say that you should first try to learn to write and then you might be able to comment by writing on any topic.

I am not stating anything that is not true here I agree with Mike on certain things and disagree with him on other things, this is what democracy is all about. All I am saying here is that Mike always starts off with I was told, I saw it on T.V. or I read it some where.

I, just like every other person in P.R. should know that the media in the island is very bias and that gives a very poor sense of what is the truth. I do not say that you or anyone in particular are wrong for wanting P.R. to be independent, the navy out of Vieques, what I do say is that leading a mass of people into a very unsafe place or situcation is not the way that we need to fix this problem.

We have other ways of getting this done, for example courts, elections etc, get the point. How would you feel to find out that people were hurt due this. I know that I would feel bad. I do not question your reason or beliefs I question the reasons of certain political figures. I also question the way Mike accuses our, yes our, Navy of all wrong doings, before this problem, and let it be known that is was a terrible accident, who was helping these communities of Vieques, Cieba, Naguabo, Fajardo was it the same politicians or was it the Navy?

El Boricua,

You are very right it is the responsiblility of the Justice Department to remove these people from being on those lands ilegally, what ever may be their reasons it does not chage the fact that they are breaking the law. One thing that you are forgetting the navy has the authority to begin removing people from there. If the navy began the exercises with those people on the lands, which the will not, it would not put in question the Navy but it would put in question the political leaders that got these people there and I can only hope that they are held accountable equally to the highest degree. I say this because when everything is all said and done the only people that always get the shaft are the poor ones, and guess what we will still be here back and forth on what happened.

Mike,

Even though we have not been in accord with all that you and certain other people have stated in certain topic in this forum I would like to extend not only to you but to those who defend the rights and beliefs the way you all do. With this said my Puerto Rican brother I say good bye since it is my turn to deploy as the military member that I am and I will not be able to visit the site for a long time. May good guide us into a peaceful solution.
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Old 27th March 2000, 22:34
David_Santiago707 David_Santiago707 is offline
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To Lenny and people like him.
Lenny, Lenny, you said that I can’t spell, I would say look at your writing to. I don’t think the media is bias. I think you are the bias one. I have family there and friends the say they don’t think so. I believe
this is the only way. If we leave it to the courts, election, and etc then
nothing would happen. PR has try the for more than 50 years or so. Now, you say you believe in a free PR but now I know you don’t. How could you call the US Arm force our Arm forces. Is not ours.
If we can’t accuses the US force than we are not a free country. The US force is at fault and you know it. You are so proud of
US force because you are in it but that does not give you the right to act like Cuba Castro. You care more about you Navy than PR.
Shame on your self.
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Old 27th March 2000, 22:58
David_Santiago707 David_Santiago707 is offline
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To Lenny and people like him.
Lenny, Lenny, you said that I can’t spell, I would say look at your writing to. I don’t think the media is bias. I think you are the bias one. I have family there and friends the say they don’t think so. I believe
this is the only way. If we leave it to the courts, election, and etc then
nothing would happen. PR has try the for more than 50 years or so. Now, you say you believe in a free PR but now I know you don’t. How could you call the US Arm force our Arm forces. Is not ours.
If we can’t accuses the US force than we are not a free country. The US force is at fault and you know it. You are so proud of
US force because you are in it but that does not give you the right to act like Cuba Castro. You care more about you Navy than PR.
Shame on your self.
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