So Communism is dead? Read this! L.F.M

[El_Jibaro]

Rumsfeld declares solidarity with Peru in fight against terrorism, drugs

Thu Aug 18, 5:02 PM ET

LIMA (AFP) - US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declared solidarity with Peru in fight against terrorism and drug trafficking as he wrapped up a flying visit to this South American state.

Rumsfeld issued the call in a joint press conference with embattled Peruvian President Alejandro Toledo.

Rumsfeld "congratulated" Toledo for what he said was a leading role the Peruvian has taken in combatting terrorism and drug trafficking.

Toledo in turn thanked the United States for supporting the efforts and urged Washington to rush approval of a free trade agreement with Peru.

The US defense chief arrived in Peru Wednesday afternoon from Paraguay.

His one day visit to Peru comes on the heels of political crisis. Toledo, whose popularity ratings have plunged to eight percent, according to polls, named a new cabinet Tuesday after his prime minister abruptly resigned.

Rumsfeld, who also met with Peru's defense minister Marciano Rengifo here, was flying back to Washington Thursday afternoon.

Rumsfeld in show of support for embattled Peru president

Wed Aug 17, 6:26 PM ET

LIMA (AFP) - US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld arrived in Peru to show support for embattled President Alejandro Toledo and to discuss US concerns about Venezuela and Cuba.

Rumsfeld arrived from Asuncion where he "compared notes" with Paraguayan leaders on what US officials view as increased Cuban and Venezuelan meddling in the region, a senior US defense official said.

A small throng of protesters jeered Rumsfeld in Asuncion, shouting "assassin, assassin" and other epithets during a wreath-laying ceremony at Paraguay's Pantheon of Heroes. Rumsfeld ignored the chants.

His one day visit to Peru comes on the heels of political crisis. Toledo, whose popularity ratings have plunged to eight percent, according to polls, named a new cabinet Tuesday after his prime minister abruptly resigned.

Rumsfeld went ahead with the visit, which was planned before the government crisis, in a show support for Toledo, whose economic and security policies have aligned this key Andean country with Washington.

"From our point of view they are doing everything we could ask them to do," a senior US defense official told reporters on the flight from Asuncion. "They are a good friend."

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, acknowledged that Toledo is weak politically and there is reason to doubt he will finish out his term.

"Peru has every chance of succeeding," the official said. "But what you don't want to see is Peru subjected to artificial pressures or Marxist subversion."

"This is a country that can definitely get ahead on its own. They're doing it now and we want it to stay on that path," the official said.

The official said Washington is worried about Venezuelan meddling in Peru, as well as by the FARC, a Colombian Marxist guerrilla group that is active in the illegal coca trade here.

He suggested that a takeover of a police station in January by disgruntled former Peruvian military officers was inspired by the "Bolivarian revolution" championed by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

Washington, which has strained relations with the Chavez government, has concluded that Venezuela and Cuba have in the past year joined in a more aggressive campaign to destabilize Bolivia with potential wider repercussions for the Andean region, officials have said.

Another defense official said Paraguay and Peru, which both border Bolivia, "see things similarly."

"We are kind of reinforcing their sentiment, letting them know we are conscious of the same problems," he said.

An emphasis of the discussions is "how the two Cubas are involved," said another defense official.

"They've seen things too. We've raised some issues," he said.

The official said the Paraguayans have decided to end a program that has brought 700 Cuban doctors into the country. However, another 700 Paraguayan students in Cuba will remain.

Rumsfeld was to meet with Toledo and his new Defense Minister Mariano Rengifo on Thursday.

On military issues, the US side is interested in helping Peru modernize its military, which was equipped with Soviet weaponry in the 1970s during a period of military rule.

An issue standing in the way of US military aid to Peru and Paraguay is a new US law blocking aid to countries that have not agreed to exempt US military personnel from the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court that will handle international war crimes cases.

Nevertheless, US officials said the defense relationship with the Peruvian military, once distant, is the warmest it has been in four decades.

[AnotherRican]

The Atheistic Dinosaur is back!!!!!

Originally Posted by Eddier1

L.F.M., aside, the extreme individual who pampers himself thinking that he has an inside track to praxis, i.e., real politik, and what an ego!, and the Maitreya El_Jib who wrote:



are examples of benighted paradox and contradiction in what they opine
and write!

We, who like Suki a neo-Marxist belonging to the bourgeois class, and myself of the proletarian class, who am an old-time commie revolutionary, mostly orthodox in thought, and at times eccentric in the application of tactical measures, ought to be very satisfied at the way Marxist revolutionary activity is unfolding in Venezuela and the other countries of Latin America.

I see it all as historically determined and those who oppose it will be swept away in the tides of history.

Even L.F.M. with his misanthropic dislike of the forum and for all that
participate in it cannot stem the tides of history. He will be like a beached
whale, his whale of an egotist burning in the sun, but he will not be able to
get afloat again as long as he doesn't change his dogmatic ways and thinking.

As for the Maitreyas, the phoney, false, fake christians, who want to usurp
the throne of Jesus, they will get their punishments naturally in these
obviously apocalyptic times. They will not be able to do their evils with impunity!

[L_F_Miranda]

I must be doing something right when I've provoked the ire of the both extremes on this board. LOL

[Eddier1]

Does that mean, L.F.M., that you are here on the forum to provoke
ire? That you are not here to edify? If so to either question, then you
are really an agent provocateur in the interest of whom?

Certainly it is isn't for the good of Puerto Rico, because you have
made clear in your latest posts how negatively you view Boricuas
and their Island-Nation. You are affllicted with the issue of being
a Puertorriqueno in self-denial. And that is pathetic!

[AnotherRican]

Oh, oh... Miranda... you are about to enter into the manure list of the old Commie here. Eventually, almost everyone (even the Princess Brat) has been put on that list. I suspect that if he has ever been married, his wife has left him and that few can stand him, even his own "party" animals.

Anyhow... I welcome you from the extreme center, Miranda. It may be your calling... to be an "instigator."

Originally Posted by Eddier1

Does that mean, L.F.M., that you are here on the forum to provoke
ire? That you are not here to edify? If so to either question, then you
are really an agent provocateur in the interest of whom?

Certainly it is isn't for the good of Puerto Rico, because you have
made clear in your latest posts how negatively you view Boricuas
and their Island-Nation. You are affllicted with the issue of being
a Puertorriqueno in self-denial. And that is pathetic!

[L_F_Miranda]

Eddier said:

"you are really an agent provocateur in the interest of whom?"

Do I have to be in someone's interest? The problem is that I've left behind the conspiricies of the Cold war and since you are still riding it's diminishing wave, what can you say? When you hit the beach and get hurt, maybe about the time when you are about to kick the bucket, then it might be too late.

Eddier Continued:

Certainly it is isn't for the good of Puerto Rico, because you have
made clear in your latest posts how negatively you view Boricuas
and their Island-Nation. You are affllicted with the issue of being
a Puertorriqueno in self-denial. And that is pathetic!

No Eddie, I am very Boricua. I'm not just into your FOLKLORIC mode that has gotten us into 107 years of continued colonialism. We have to expose our faults, we have to see what's wrong with our national psyche, we have to see where we went wrong. I think the problem is people like you. You refuse to "sacar los trapos al sol" no matter how painful they are. You refuse to see how the system you hate so much is using you to perpetuate our dependency with "baile, baraja y botella."

[Eddier1]

L.M. wrote:

You refuse to "sacar los trapos al sol" no matter how painful they are. You refuse to see how the system you hate so much is using you to perpetuate our dependency with "baile, baraja y botella."

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No, umm no! Nosotros jamas de las jamases limpiemos nuestros trapos delante
del publico. Tenemos verguenza!, y aun algunos les gusten el "baile, baraja, y
botella, yo ni bailo, ni juego baraja, y no puedo beber como antes, es decir,
en una manera mas que social.

Pregunto: en que sentido, yo un cientifico social, estoy dejandome ser
usado por el gigante del norte? Explicame, y vere si es verdad o no.

Y que tu eres un "instigador", no has aclarado si es por tus proprios 'agarras';
(te gusta torturar los oprimidos e explotados, como capitalista que eres?) o
por los intereses de imperio norteamericano; y si eso, entonces eres un
perro corriendo, un lacayo, del desdichado imperio surhumano.