Puerto Rico update

[L_F_Miranda]

Well written post Rafael.

Although I agree with most, if not all of your ideas, I'm still concerned about Puerto Rico being born a sovereign nation with more than half of its people opposing it.

When I talk to non-elitist guys in small town Puerto Rico the only thing I hear from them is fear and the basic whine "what will we do without them." Despite that we are no longer a vital interest to the U.S, or that the rising tide of American nationalism will be against integrating a Spanish Speaking State, they are resistent to the idea of independence. "How do we shake off this fear in order to construct a viable nation?"

Yes, I too believe independence is inevitable. It's no longer a question if Puerto Ricans want it, that's irrevelant. We should begin discussing and asking ourselves, when will Congress begin the process to get rid of us. How will they do it despite a majority thinking that it will be Statehood by default? MMMMM, this is a good topic to discuss here.

Bottomline, If Congress is waiting for us to take the lead in solving status, then my friends, it will be colonialism for a thousand years more.

[El_Jibaro]

Originally Posted by L_F_Miranda

Well written post Rafael.

Although I agree with most, if not all of your ideas, I'm still concerned about Puerto Rico being born a sovereign nation with more than half of its people opposing it.

When I talk to non-elitist guys in small town Puerto Rico the only thing I hear from them is fear and the basic whine "what will we do without them." Despite that we are no longer a vital interest to the U.S, or that the rising tide of American nationalism will be against integrating a Spanish Speaking State, they are resistent to the idea of independence. "How do we shake off this fear in order to construct a viable nation?"

Yes, I too believe independence is inevitable. It's no longer a question if Puerto Ricans want it, that's irrevelant. We should begin discussing and asking ourselves, when will Congress begin the process to get rid of us. How will they do it despite a majority thinking that it will be Statehood by default? MMMMM, this is a good topic to discuss here.

Bottomline, If Congress is waiting for us to take the lead in solving status, then my friends, it will be colonialism for a thousand years more.

Wow, to the tiny 2.8% minority, it doesn't matter what 97.2% of Puerto Ricans want.

[Eddier1]

Bottomline, If Congress is waiting for us to take the lead in solving status, then my friends, it will be colonialism for a thousand years more

Current events, which you are exclusively into has clouded your mind as to the
history of the struggle for independence that Puertorriquenos already have under
their belts. You or no one who knows our history can seriously be ignorant of
the Grito de Lares, and all that led to it from the revolutionary days of Betances.

What you are doing is predictable, because the 'disrespect' for Puerto Ricans has
affected your mind and will, and you have given into it by lauding the "mighty and
degenerate" empire of the U.S.. You like to mention, like Munoz used to, the whining
and uncertainity of the poorest of Puerto Ricans. There, you and he said, you have
it! that the Puerto Ricans are spooked-out by the cuco of not being able to
survive independently from the 'goliate del norte'; what you cast aside in memory
is that Puertorriquenos survived for over five centuries without welfare or any
material help from the empire of Spain. Do you really think, the U.S. has wiped
out what is embedded in the genes, in the DNA codes, of the Puertorriquenos?
That when Filiberto and Albizu are forgotten as living in the memory of the
people, either pro or con, that there will be no more independence activity
produced in 'nuestra Isla-Nacion' or in 'nuestra Isla-Nena de Vieques'?

Soy Puertorriqueno y punto; y Realista Social.
Hacia la Victoria Siempre, Boricuas!

[L_F_Miranda]

El_Jibaro said: Wow, to the tiny 2.8% minority, it doesn't matter what 97.2% of Puerto Ricans want.

Jibaro, isn't it strange that this same 2.8% was responsible for getting the strongest, and ONLY WORLD EMPIRE, to abandon the crown jewel of military defense in the Caribbean?

Although I believe that Ruben and the PIP took the credit, and rightfully so, I aslo think forces within the Empire will be using this 2.8% as an excuse to deny us Statehood and eventually send us all on our merry way to swim with the sharks.

[L_F_Miranda]

Eddier, you must be high on something or you haven't taken your nutso pill, but I've never said we can't survive as an independent entity. In fact, I've repeated over and over again that we have to learn to swim in the ocean of sharks. It will take us some time but we will do it.

[Eddier1]

L.F. you wrote that independence as a decision of the Boricuas,
will never be, and that they will have to wait a "thousand" years,
and the implication is that ' it will never happen'!

Moreover, in another post you make a joke of Fernando Ferrer,
intimating thathe swims with the sharks and cannot win against
Blumberg.

In fact, you denigrate yourself first and foremost by a masochism
of yourself by saying that a Dominican will be Mayor of N.Y.C.
before Ferrer and by 'ende' any other Puertorriqueno. YOU ARE
ONLY HARMING YOURSELF MASOCHISTICALLY BY SAYING
SUCH THINGS. And it is YOU that needs meds for the clinical
condition of your masochism. Not only that! you are not an
asset to this forum when you attempt to seduce the Boricuas
of this forum into your mentally sick masochism. As you ought
to know that is a classic endeavor of mental cases who try
to 'dynamically project' their illness on a sane, or rational,
conscientious, and socially responsible person and/or persons.

Clean up your act!, Luis, or forever hold your peace in relation
to what I write, which has not included any personalisms
directed at your person. What I said in former posts is all
derived as logical consequences which refute the errors
that you make about Puerto Rico and the Puerto Rican
people. That's all!

[RicanYankee]

Well, see here... We used to excell in baseball.... hummm los dominicanos nos lo quitaron... in politics, los dominicos again.... even salsa is been replaced by merengue in my native NYC.... and here we are... beetcheeng about the status quo in P.R. hey, last time I went to the Island it looked like the dominicanos nos invadieron there too... so not only we lost NYC, we are loosing P.R. too... and here we are, beetcheeng about the status quo in P.R..... 2.8% pipiolos in P.R., 95% pipiolos in NYC cogiendo cupones... 2.8% pipiolos in P.R. comiendose un cable... 95% pipiolos in NYC cogiendo cupones and beetcheeng about the status quo in P.R. When the U.S. grants us independance, then we'll let Venezuela and Rep. Dominicana fight it out for P.R. and when all is said and done.... 2.8% pipiolos in P.R. comiendose un cable, y 95% pipiolos in NYC cogiendo cupones and beetcheeng about the status quo in P.R.