What do they Plan to do to PR? Puerto Rican Tea Party...

[Suki]

Grant Puerto Rico Independence in 1998



by:

F.R. Duplantier







America's Future
7800 Bonhomme
St. Louis MO 63105
Phone: 314-725-6003
Fax: 314-721-3373

Our First Fifty Years

It would be folly indeed to admit a 51st state "whose people don't speak English and don't intend to learn it."
"Congress appears to be rushing toward a vote on H.R. 856, the U.S. Puerto Rico Political Status Act," warns Phyllis Schlafly of Eagle Forum. "Under H.R. 856," she explains, "a 51 percent majority for state-hood would commit us to begin the statehood process. What sense would it make to admit a new state in which 49 percent of the people are opposed to the idea?" Schlafly asks. "Do we want to admit a state that is ripe for secession?"

Mrs. Schlafly argues that a Puerto Rican state "would be a modern Trojan horse. The inherent problems of Puerto Rico would leap out and do irreparable damage to our nation." The foremost problem, of course, would be the language barrier. Noting that "three-fourths of the people in Puerto Rico don't speak or understand English," Schlafly emphasizes that "making Puerto Rico a state would transform America overnight into a bilingual nation." Our neighbors to the north can vouch for the impracticality of such an arrangement.

There are also economic and social problems to consider. "Statehood would cost the rest of us plenty in taxes," Mrs. Schlafly predicts. She points out that "the average income of Puerto Ricans is less than half that of our poorest state's citizens, and statehood would bring immediate demands for massive federal funding. Two-thirds of the population live below the federal poverty level. At least half of Puerto Ricans receive food stamps. Unemployment is about 15 percent," Schlafly reports. "Infrastructure, the environment, and education are all far below American standards. Drug-related murder is worse than in New York or Washington, DC, and the incidence of AIDS is higher than anywhere in the United States."

The political ramifications of statehood should not be ignored. "If Puerto Rico becomes a state," Phyllis Schlafly observes, "it would claim eight representatives in Congress and two U.S. Senators, and they would all be Democrats. That's more congressional representation than 25 of our 50 states enjoy." Schlafly proposes an alternative to statehood. Recalling that the U.S. acquired Puerto Rico as the spoils of the Spanish American War of 1898, she recommends that we "celebrate the centennial of that war by giving Puerto Rico its independence."

Better yet, why not encourage the Puerto Ricans to declare their independence? After all, there is a time-tested formula for this. Remember what set the Founding Fathers off? "Taxation without representation." If they were going to be taxed by the mother country, they figured they were entitled to send representatives to its parliament. Denied that representation, they resorted to rebellion. If taxation without representation fired up the Founding Fathers, maybe it will rouse the Puerto Ricans too. Unfortunately, what they have now is "representation without taxation." Who can complain about that? Let's reverse that relationship and raise taxes to ruinous levels. The San Juan Tea Party will follow in good time.





Behind The Headlines is syndicated to newspapers and radio stations, free of charge, by America's Future, a nonprofit educational organization founded in 1946 and dedicated to the preservation of our free-enterprise system and our constitutional form of government. For more information, or a free sample of our bimonthly newsletter, e-mail or write to:
America's Future, 7800 Bonhomme, St. Louis, Missouri 63105.
Or call: 1-314-725-6003.
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That is the key to this dirty laundry being pursued against the PNP people folks. They want to tax Puerto Rico and not give it any reps. They want a rebellion. And if they don't get one, they will get their money in taxes, cut welfare and cupones, cut federal aid, and keep military reserves, and NEVER give the Puerto Ricans political parity. If the dummies who still think the USA is not thinking of itself first and its colonized last, then don't complain when the cafe con leche tea party happens. For being stupidly parasitical and wanting to not be independent and not take the initiative for their own people and waiting for el gobierno de afuera para resolver el lio, is the surefire way to be unprepared for when the independence finally arrives, and not seeing just how unfair the USA gov't is with PR, they might need the Tea party after all, a little caffeine to wake up to the political future of the island in today's economies and governments. Tax Puerto Rico up the ying yang (these people say), cut all socialistic welfare and make the Boricuas work and pay LOTS of taxes, with no political clout to show for it, FOREVER, or until the Puerto Ricans rebel for real. Independencia is gonna happen, don't wait for the kick in the pants or for bankruptcy and chaos to make a better future. INDEPENDENCIA IS GONNA HAPPEN!! Work for a better Puerto Rico TODAY, not when the USA says so. Work on an independent republic TODAY, not on when the Empire decides it is time to create the squeeze and tax and not do anything eventually. They are not going to give statehood folks. Give it up. It is not in their best interests. And federal funds without end when their deficit is blown out of control is stupid thinking. They are gonna look for ways of saving some money and the weakest link is cutting the welfare and cupones to Puerto Rico. They won't give political rights, but want to tax Puerto Ricans like mainlanders and tell us what to do and how to run our society. But without the ability to vote or have any political power, especially more than 25 other states of the Union. Think of no more fed funds, no USA gov't help programs, and being taxed and 15% unemployment. That is what is coming. Die for us in Iraq, pay taxes, stay in poverty and crime and don't call the shots in your own ancient land. Be disrespected for not speaking English and be total punching bags of the USA gov't forever. If you rebel----Independence automatically. If you don't rebel, it will get worse and worse and worse until finally the Ricans who stay in Puerto Rico and don't want to speak English and can't get a chequecito from the mainland anymore says---to hell with this! I want something done to solve my problem. Then the tea party will happen.

[s3xy]

Perfect post, loved every word of it.

Most are scared to face reality.

[AnotherRican]

Now calm down, I'm responding to your quoted article... don't start your idiotic "stalking" drama, Sooook...

The article is written by a Conservative that I respect but on this one, I don't agree with her. On some things, she has a stereotypical view, on other things, she is right, but overall, I don't agree. I believe we should give the populace the right to vote the future even if there are almost half that don't want Statehood. I question her numbers. I think the numbers would dramatically increase in favor of Statehood if only two options are on the ballot, independence or Statehood.

Originally Posted by Suki

Grant Puerto Rico Independence in 1998

by:

F.R. Duplantier

America's Future
7800 Bonhomme
St. Louis MO 63105
Phone: 314-725-6003
Fax: 314-721-3373

Our First Fifty Years

It would be folly indeed to admit a 51st state "whose people don't speak English and don't intend to learn it."
"Congress appears to be rushing toward a vote on H.R. 856, the U.S. Puerto Rico Political Status Act," warns Phyllis Schlafly of Eagle Forum. "Under H.R. 856," she explains, "a 51 percent majority for state-hood would commit us to begin the statehood process. What sense would it make to admit a new state in which 49 percent of the people are opposed to the idea?" Schlafly asks. "Do we want to admit a state that is ripe for secession?"

Mrs. Schlafly argues that a Puerto Rican state "would be a modern Trojan horse. The inherent problems of Puerto Rico would leap out and do irreparable damage to our nation." The foremost problem, of course, would be the language barrier. Noting that "three-fourths of the people in Puerto Rico don't speak or understand English," Schlafly emphasizes that "making Puerto Rico a state would transform America overnight into a bilingual nation." Our neighbors to the north can vouch for the impracticality of such an arrangement.

There are also economic and social problems to consider. "Statehood would cost the rest of us plenty in taxes," Mrs. Schlafly predicts. She points out that "the average income of Puerto Ricans is less than half that of our poorest state's citizens, and statehood would bring immediate demands for massive federal funding. Two-thirds of the population live below the federal poverty level. At least half of Puerto Ricans receive food stamps. Unemployment is about 15 percent," Schlafly reports. "Infrastructure, the environment, and education are all far below American standards. Drug-related murder is worse than in New York or Washington, DC, and the incidence of AIDS is higher than anywhere in the United States."

The political ramifications of statehood should not be ignored. "If Puerto Rico becomes a state," Phyllis Schlafly observes, "it would claim eight representatives in Congress and two U.S. Senators, and they would all be Democrats. That's more congressional representation than 25 of our 50 states enjoy." Schlafly proposes an alternative to statehood. Recalling that the U.S. acquired Puerto Rico as the spoils of the Spanish American War of 1898, she recommends that we "celebrate the centennial of that war by giving Puerto Rico its independence."

Better yet, why not encourage the Puerto Ricans to declare their independence? After all, there is a time-tested formula for this. Remember what set the Founding Fathers off? "Taxation without representation." If they were going to be taxed by the mother country, they figured they were entitled to send representatives to its parliament. Denied that representation, they resorted to rebellion. If taxation without representation fired up the Founding Fathers, maybe it will rouse the Puerto Ricans too. Unfortunately, what they have now is "representation without taxation." Who can complain about that? Let's reverse that relationship and raise taxes to ruinous levels. The San Juan Tea Party will follow in good time.





Behind The Headlines is syndicated to newspapers and radio stations, free of charge, by America's Future, a nonprofit educational organization founded in 1946 and dedicated to the preservation of our free-enterprise system and our constitutional form of government. For more information, or a free sample of our bimonthly newsletter, e-mail or write to:
America's Future, 7800 Bonhomme, St. Louis, Missouri 63105.
Or call: 1-314-725-6003.
****************************************************

That is the key to this dirty laundry being pursued against the PNP people folks. They want to tax Puerto Rico and not give it any reps. They want a rebellion. And if they don't get one, they will get their money in taxes, cut welfare and cupones, cut federal aid, and keep military reserves, and NEVER give the Puerto Ricans political parity. If the dummies who still think the USA is not thinking of itself first and its colonized last, then don't complain when the cafe con leche tea party happens. For being stupidly parasitical and wanting to not be independent and not take the initiative for their own people and waiting for el gobierno de afuera para resolver el lio, is the surefire way to be unprepared for when the independence finally arrives, and not seeing just how unfair the USA gov't is with PR, they might need the Tea party after all, a little caffeine to wake up to the political future of the island in today's economies and governments. Tax Puerto Rico up the ying yang (these people say), cut all socialistic welfare and make the Boricuas work and pay LOTS of taxes, with no political clout to show for it, FOREVER, or until the Puerto Ricans rebel for real. Independencia is gonna happen, don't wait for the kick in the pants or for bankruptcy and chaos to make a better future. INDEPENDENCIA IS GONNA HAPPEN!! Work for a better Puerto Rico TODAY, not when the USA says so. Work on an independent republic TODAY, not on when the Empire decides it is time to create the squeeze and tax and not do anything eventually. They are not going to give statehood folks. Give it up. It is not in their best interests. And federal funds without end when their deficit is blown out of control is stupid thinking. They are gonna look for ways of saving some money and the weakest link is cutting the welfare and cupones to Puerto Rico. They won't give political rights, but want to tax Puerto Ricans like mainlanders and tell us what to do and how to run our society. But without the ability to vote or have any political power, especially more than 25 other states of the Union. Think of no more fed funds, no USA gov't help programs, and being taxed and 15% unemployment. That is what is coming. Die for us in Iraq, pay taxes, stay in poverty and crime and don't call the shots in your own ancient land. Be disrespected for not speaking English and be total punching bags of the USA gov't forever. If you rebel----Independence automatically. If you don't rebel, it will get worse and worse and worse until finally the Ricans who stay in Puerto Rico and don't want to speak English and can't get a chequecito from the mainland anymore says---to hell with this! I want something done to solve my problem. Then the tea party will happen.

[NelsonN]

Hey Suki, do you ever post an opinion of your own? I guess not, because as most of the posters here you only re-post news paper clippings. I can only see that you make no attempt at understanding the ramblings in many of the clips you post, and pass it on as fact. It's garbage!

This article is riddle with so many holes I am not even going to go into them one-by-one.

Let's take one issue so that you can understand me, the issue of the United Stated becoming a "bilingual nation." Do you think a law has to be passed to make this happen, or not happen? No, because it already has happened! A long time ago!

Not only that but you have nationalities and cultures of every diversity in the major cities, like China Towns, ever hear of them?

If you followed Wall Street, instead of listening to the so-called expert Economists on the island (I shiver everytime I listen to one) you should have noticed how major companies and the TV networks are fumbling over one another to provide products and programming in other languages, the first of which will be Spanish!

Here read:
"ABC recently became the first network to offer its primetime lineup in Spanish, by creating a dubbed audio channel that viewers can access with the SAP (second audio program) button on their televisions. That's a benefit to the nation's 20 million households who watch mostly Spanish-language TV."

That's primetime lineup, no just movie's of the week.

The other networks will not be that far behind. Diversity has always been the strength of the nation, any nutjob that doesn't recognize that is an imbecile not worth reading.

[Suki]

Look Nelson Ned, I have a lot of opinions. All mine. You are some newcomer with a huge ego and I am not wasting my time with you. You don't have any wish to read any of my past posts or you would not be wasting time posting in my thread with stupid personalisms. Why should I answer you? You are into insults and stupidities from the few posts you have put on here and the ones I have read with your name on it. If you fight with Jane Mas, Fulano de Tal and call them names, with me, forget it. You either stick to facts and respect or forget debating. I have enough dummies chasing my every post around screaming for attention. I would think after the moderator nuked more than 17 posts at once of his he would have learned not to be a stalking fixated obsessed one but he is not. Don't assume you know people in a forum you just joined Nelson. You don't know anyone and being disrespectful is not an asset.

You don't want to face facts? That it doesn't matter that 100% of Puerto Rico might vote for statehood. That is not in the plan from the USA fat cats. And the congress is not interested in statehood. It is a ploy. To keep the pro-America crapola going. You think in today's USA the majority of the voters love bilingualism? Dream on. Paranoid xenophobia and thinking the USA is becoming contaminated by the third world Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, etc. is what is out there in voterland not some liberal multicultural let us speak the languages of the world. But you would not know it Nelson Ned enano, you still think the USA is conservative politically, religiously, and etc, except when it comes to speaking Spanish and accepting Latin American culture as equals in sharing political power. African Americans don't have equal political power and they are over 35 million in number and lived always on the mainland.

Dream on Nelson. The reality is Puerto Rico is a separate nation culturally and historically and linguistically. And majority votes in Puerto Rico have no weight in Washington. If statehood was the plan they would have done it long ago. You conservatives need to focus on convincing your die hard hate the Latin American third world invasion among you who think Puerto Ricans will bring crime, AIDS, low education, genetic inferiority and tax burdens to their lives. Go and convince them of your pro-statehood baba, they are the ones who you need to kiss ass to. I don't. I think the above conservatives are heading in the right direction, cut the apron strings and let us loose. I agree with them. Getting them to believe your crap is your job. Not mine. (Big Grin). Go Nelson and tell them, "hey it is true I trust the Gringos more than the puertorros to run the island, but Gringo, you must see it through our perspective. You guys are the best at running things on earth, take on our drug addiction problem, our crime, our bad public education, our ruined bankrupt government, our machetero problems, our corrupt in jail PNP politicos, and etc., take it all on, and give us more dollars and let us speak Spanish, you won't regret it." See what all those arrogant conservative Gringos will reply won't you? They will say, "If you guys can't look after your own problems well enough and make enough of an economy to be an asset to our tax burden/deficits then why should we make you a state of the union with a bunch of liberal free spending accent on the English senators and congresspeople? why should we? Screw you. Let us tax you and not give you political representation and cut all you parasitical welfare cheats and let you fend for yourselves but still control what is important. Land, military intervention and wealth flow and business deals with the rest of the world, and tax the few Puerto Ricans who work for a living in Puerto Rico and the ones too lazy to work let them learn English and pay taxes or STARVE to death for all we care!" Those are the Gringos you should be coping with Nelson. I am clear. I am independentista and think the only way of making Puerto Rico better is to cut the USA gov't out of our laws, our land and our lives in terms of policy. I am willing to take the risk of independence no matter what happens. I aint a statehooder. So it is up to you to convince the above conservatives not to let Puerto Rico have a Tea party for freedom like the 'founding fathers' for the USA did in 1776. Tell them you don't believe in independence for your own nation but you believe in the USA's independence only. Go. Convince them Nelson enano. I am sure you will have a great time trying to make them understand what an asset Puerto Rico is to the Gringos who think like the writer of the above article. Go. Get busy. Lol. Tell the above conservative Gringo/a, "we are all messed up as a society, but we trust the American way of solving things. Take on our problems and you won't regret it. Sure we have a majority of Puerto Ricans who don't speak fluent English and are on welfare, but hey, we can change. All we need are the great Gringo God in Washington DC to bless us and then you will see the light of how wonderful the 51st Rican state shall be for you." I am unconvinced you shall persuade them. Besides, I think the above conservative Gringos are a lot more realistic about Puerto Rico and the Puerto Rican status question than Puerto Ricans like you, who love to trash their own people and culture yet expect to be the 'equals' of the Gringos who wrote that article up there. If you believe that you are really really LOST lacayo. Get another gig.

**hint** if you want people to keep responding to your posts don't alienate them with stupidity or suffer the other stalker freak's fate. In which he is basically ignored by anyone who can write semi decently. Don't get to be that pathetic. Save yourself with respectful behavior if not. I don't give a damn about your lopsided lacayo opinions either.

Suki

[NelsonN]

I have been a member of Puerto Rico.com for years.

I just felt like replying to nonsense posts I keep reading here, and most are just postings of an article some imbecile wrote to fill space, and people like you espouse it as the way everyone in the U.S. is thinking. Again it's h.o.r.s.e.s.h.i.t!

I am not for statehood, and I don't belong to any of the parties. What I don't wish to see is independence, screw that. If you want independence go live in Cuba or the Dominican republic. What's that, you say? I thought so.

The U.S. will never let go of Puerto Rico. What needs to happen is the cleanup of the political corruption, it's getting too ridiculous. Puerto Rico can be so much better politically wise, the shame is on us for voting into office the same trash year after year--even with the best evidence of corruption in hand. The old decade cry of "I vote [fill in your political party here] because my father was a [fill in your political party here] and I am a [fill in your political party here] until the day I die." The usual ignorant Puertorican nonsense. Keep voting like that, it's just done great things for Puerto Rico, really.

And as far as the blacks in America, they are everywhere and in every local and national office. Proof you don't know what you are talking about.

Can you tell me what happened to Trent Lott?

Tremendous political controversy ensued following remarks Lott made on Dec. 5, 2002 at Strom Thurmond's 100th birthday party. Thurmond ran for President of the United States in 1948 on the Dixiecrat (or States' Rights) ticket, whose primary campaign issue was the perpetuation of racial segregation in the United States. Lott said:

I guess the tremendous political pressure was the whites ganging up on Lott, the blacks just sat on the sidelines, because according to you they have no political power.

Hell, if Puertoricans were as unified in their fight against Washington (as black people have) we would have already marched on Washington D.C. and gotten things done. Instead we send ass kissers to Capitol Hill.

[s3xy]

Originally Posted by NelsonN

I have been a member of Puerto Rico.com for years.

I just felt like replying to nonsense posts I keep reading here, and most are just postings of an article some imbecile wrote to fill space, and people like you espouse it as the way everyone in the U.S. is thinking. Again it's h.o.r.s.e.s.h.i.t!

I am not for statehood, and I don't belong to any of the parties. What I don't wish to see is independence, screw that. If you want independence go live in Cuba or the Dominican republic. What's that, you say? I thought so.

The U.S. will never let go of Puerto Rico. What needs to happen is the cleanup of the political corruption, it's getting too ridiculous. Puerto Rico can be so much better politically wise, the shame is on us for voting into office the same trash year after year--even with the best evidence of corruption in hand. The old decade cry of "I vote [fill in your political party here] because my father was a [fill in your political party here] and I am a [fill in your political party here] until the day I die." The usual ignorant Puertorican nonsense. Keep voting like that, it's just done great things for Puerto Rico, really.

And as far as the blacks in America, they are everywhere and in every local and national office. Proof you don't know what you are talking about.

Can you tell me what happened to Trent Lott?



I guess the tremendous political pressure was the whites ganging up on Lott, the blacks just sat on the sidelines, because according to you they have no political power.

Hell, if Puertoricans were as unified in their fight against Washington (as black people have) we would have already marched on Washington D.C. and gotten things done. Instead we send ass kissers to Capitol Hill.

lol...how dare you tell a Puerto Rican to move out of their country, you really think Yuki wants to be distant where she is from?