Puerto Rican Think 101

[AnotherRican]

Originally Posted by Yujike

Mira so desgraciao, tu ,el Pornorican y el Juliany tienen una sola agenda: Odiar a puertorico y a los boricuas. Uds. son unos mamabotas de los gringos y solo tienen un tema como una diarrea de la boca. Porque no forman su propio blog llamado ODIOAPUERTORICO.COM y ventilan su veneno en su propio lugar? Uds. son solo sarna del mismo perro, cucarachas de la misma letrina. Su interes no es dialogar sino lanzar diatribas y acusaciones falsas en contra de nuestro pueblo, a traves del mismo tema.

Y tu gorda Miranda, te quejas porque te comparo con el Pornorican y usas las mismas tecnicas y hasta los mismos calificativos, pendejo, nunca he vivido en Nueva York y hablo ESPANOL. no como UDs. que no saben ni siquiera su propio idioma. Coje verguenza y defiende lo tuyo VENDEPATRIA y lacayo.

Is this guy brain dead? He is trolling here. He does not respond to our sincere challenges to him and when confronted on his lowly behavior and contradictions, he runs like a chicken of the third world. He sure has the mother of all mouths to talk the way he does. He says we hate PR because we don't love Fidel and all the Fidel butt-kissers like him. We don't agree with his outlandish hallucinations. He claims he teaches kids in public school, has been a leader in the community, and calls the free markets that give him his fat pension as "mierda." Those are his words. He accuses other of being "vendepatria" yet he won't admit that he loves despots like Chavez, Fidel, and the new dictator in the making of Bolivia. Basically he exhibits all the signs of a true bigot that cannot stand folks thinking for themselves and telling him he is in error. That's true extreme narcissism. Too bad. He has not grown up. That's why he gets along with the Marxist Jew-hating Rican child that lurks around these places, lately.

[Yujike]

Que dijo la cucuracha Martina en la letrina?? No la puedo oir por el eco de su boca, digo su pozo septico

[PhiDaWg61]

Seems that self reflection means "self hate" to some people.

Eg. Bill Cosby can go on tour pointing out all of his missteps with his own community and people in mass agree with what he says

Every other self respecting nationality fill the airwaves and cyberspace with their problems and things get done...
But if a Puerto Rican notes something thats flat out cancerous... he/she is full of self hate?!?

This is such BS!

[EL_BORICUA]

Originally Posted by Eddier1

Interesting post, El_Boricua -- but do you mind if I seek a bit more clarification that might allay or dispel the contradiction that I currently perceive in your post.

A couple of questions as to specificity, first by "semi-fascist right wing republicans" do you refer to the libertarian engendered anarcho-fascist movement in the Republican Party known as the NEO CONS? And second, by "ultra-liberal anything goes democrats" do you refer to those liberals who use sex and violence claiming that such is the common ground that unites all humans in society?

And when you said "that radicalism in any form is wrong" is that not in contradiction with what you said that Puerto Ricans "must rock the boat" (perhaps like LFM does) to problem solve the ISSUE created by the unincorporated territorial status the U.S. uses to continue holding Puerto Rico as a U.S. possession, and which shows no sign of changing, even in the face of the upcoming discussion of Puerto Rico's status in the United Nations Committee on Decolonialisation?

Depending on your answers to these questions, I can make an evaluation of whether or not your political point of view is a step up from Miranda's 101 views, which he always puts forward in one form or another, with the same agenda repeated again and again -- ad nauseaum.

I should have used the word extremism it would have been a much better choice.When I mention the "right-wingers" I do include all those with fascist ideas these "neo-cons" if you will are the ones slowly chipping away our personal freedoms while bringing the world closer to the brink.
The "ultra-liberals" hide behind the so called "political correctness" to justify their agenda and actually preventing people from speaking out about their actions by labeling them bigotted or racsist cleverly chipping away our freedom of speech.
I would like to see Puerto Rico as an independent nation yet I am not anti-american,one need not be a radical or extremst to rock the boat,that is the typical attitude in Puerto Rico that anyone who speaks out is labeled a radical or extremist.
Unlike many statehooders and estadolibristas I believe the U.S. does not want Puerto Rico to become a state they just have not found a way to solve the problem of what to do with 4,000,000 U.S. citizens how can they take it away or let everyone have dual citizenship when they come up with a formula things will change,of course the politicos in Puerto Rico refuse to push the issue so the issue drags on.
On a hopeful note the U.S. did not object to hearing the issue of Puerto Rico in the U.N. something they always did in the past.
On another note I do not believe that an independent Puerto Rico will be taken over by Fidel Castro,Hugo Chavez,or anyone else communism has not worked well in many countries and personally I believe it is a flawed idea it may evolve into something in the future we must watch the Chinese but North Korea is an example of extreme communism.

[Eddier1]

communism has not worked well in many countries and personally I believe it is a flawed idea it may evolve into something in the future we must watch the Chinese but North Korea is an example of extreme communism.

At least you didn't write that it is dead. Of course, it isn't as there are many revolutionary activities by commies around the world.

Some like in Nepal are violent revolutions using guerrilla groups, armed by the PRC, and there are more reformist activities towards socialism and/or communism going on that use elections to advance their causes.

What is flawed can be found in the path of human practice were errors are sometimes made by revolutionary groups in tactics, although the groups understand fairly well the ideology of communism.

That is to be understood, since to err is human, but to correct errors is also human -- something that is hardly mentioned by abashed humans. No need to get discouraged, however, as communism is a protracted and complex development in the world, and usually will make corrections as necessary.

The thing is to keep an open mind to change, and think outside the box so as to not become dogmatic and arrogant like the fanatical anti-communists, for example, AnotherRican and the other one who expired for all intents and purposes, viz. El_Jibaro, and doesn't post on this forum anymore. Who knows?, maybe he died.

As long as change exists (since time immemorial of random events), communism will be viable and most probably resorted to when the excrement of capitalism hits the fan, like it is in Iraq or in Lebanon.

[AnotherRican]

Boricua,

There are plenty of Marxists that have infiltrated the Partido Independentista and would welcome Fidel and Chavez. These guys range from Juan (Jabba Hutt) Mari Bras, Ruben Bozo Berrios, and others, especially the younger generation that has had their brains eaten up by the Marxist maggots at the UPR. These will sell their nation rapidly to the Marxists and turn the island into the Second Cuba. Haven't you noticed the Marxist Freak Boy of this forum? That is sad and shows the future of Independentistas. This kid is anti-Semitic, can't distinguish when a rag he quotes from praises suicide bombers who hate Israel, etc. Once PR becomes independent then just kiss it goodbye because all the independentistas will have to come in line with Socialism, Marxism, etc. because the idealogues of the party will not permit any alternative government in order to have a stranglehold to power. They will do this with any means possible, including guns because the USA is out and no one is looking any longer for the interests of the majority.

Originally Posted by EL_BORICUA

I should have used the word extremism it would have been a much better choice.When I mention the "right-wingers" I do include all those with fascist ideas these "neo-cons" if you will are the ones slowly chipping away our personal freedoms while bringing the world closer to the brink.
The "ultra-liberals" hide behind the so called "political correctness" to justify their agenda and actually preventing people from speaking out about their actions by labeling them bigotted or racsist cleverly chipping away our freedom of speech.
I would like to see Puerto Rico as an independent nation yet I am not anti-american,one need not be a radical or extremst to rock the boat,that is the typical attitude in Puerto Rico that anyone who speaks out is labeled a radical or extremist.
Unlike many statehooders and estadolibristas I believe the U.S. does not want Puerto Rico to become a state they just have not found a way to solve the problem of what to do with 4,000,000 U.S. citizens how can they take it away or let everyone have dual citizenship when they come up with a formula things will change,of course the politicos in Puerto Rico refuse to push the issue so the issue drags on.
On a hopeful note the U.S. did not object to hearing the issue of Puerto Rico in the U.N. something they always did in the past.
On another note I do not believe that an independent Puerto Rico will be taken over by Fidel Castro,Hugo Chavez,or anyone else communism has not worked well in many countries and personally I believe it is a flawed idea it may evolve into something in the future we must watch the Chinese but North Korea is an example of extreme communism.

[EL_BORICUA]

I have to disagree with you there will be no communist take over by force of Puerto Rico by Fidel Castro,Hugo Chavez,Mari Bras,or whoever.
Now if Juan Mari Bras or any other marxist won a democratically held election then how can anyone ***** about it,you cant have it both ways in a democracy you should be able to vote for whoever you want.
The Bush administration fails to grasp this,they sponsered elections in the ocupied territories and Hamas won the election now they refuse to deal with Hamas and look whats happening.
The Hezbollah was wrong to start this lastest episode but Israel is also wrong for destroying Lebanon,Hamas I could understand even though their tactics are sickening after all they are an ocupied people.
And yes communism is still out there and on paper it does look good but I think individual freedoms must be respected and right now I dont see it,I do see the Chicoms loosening its grip to an extent and that is good.