Taking out the trash

[RPR]

OK this posting is not for the light hearted you have been warned. Hopefully, I will not get banned for this lol.


I thinks its hilarious how Miranda and Suki wonder how there is a low participation rate on this site. First of all, Miranda is a know it all and Suki has an enforcer type of personality lol. I don't tHINK i'm the only one on here who has thought that. The funny thing is that I like both of these posters...am I a masoquist lol? Thats a negative haha. Sometimes overbearing personalities do kill a good dialogue.Word for the wise.

[Suki]

RPR I suffered through too many years of no discipline on this site with people hoping my mother dies of cancer and writing such things as I hope you get a brain tumor and it explodes and you die, all because of my 'opinions'. I realized there are some sickos out in internet land and if you accept the position of moderator you had better be consistent with discipline or you suffer the consequences of having this site go down the tubes filled with people who are haters and psychos.

I have gotten every kind of unexpected and weird hating type of behavior for no reason except for expressing my sincere opinions. And many forums if they are undisciplined the only ones who are 'permanent' are the ones without any respect for others after a while.

So, if I am an 'enforcer' it is because the other moderators before me either had no support from administration or were completely absent. And I never was that type of person to be absent or to be lenient on disrespectful and out of control people. There is nothing to fear here. Be yourself and all is fine as long as you are respectful. That is all.

[Suki]

RPR, I have been on here on and off since August of 2001. I did not look for this 'job' it came looking for me. Lol. Literally.

In those years, I have had people as cyber buddies and friends, and some real weirdos out there. Just like real life. I have no use for people who are here to hate and vent and be selfish and only want to abuse and disrespect many people and never engage in debate or dialog.

Many mentally unbalanced people use the internet forum format to hide from real life and real people with real faces. They let out their racism and their hatreds, and their petty and inappropriate thoughts and since they use a screename and feel they are 'anonymous' they depersonalize in a dangerous way other people. Everyone become an 'object'. And therefore doesn't have to be treated with any consideration or respect. You see that a lot on the internet.

People just lose their minds sometimes in this format. Did you see that documentary about some men being caught for pedophilia after going to some home of a fake cop posing as a thirteen year old girl on the internet? Cancer doctors, lawyers even and others were arrested. Why? Why did these men lose their minds and rational thoughts chatting on the internet with a minor supposedly? Some were married with kids and careers and were the sole breadwinners of their families. Why did they want to go to some strange unknown young girl's house and have some useless and illegal sex with her? Because this medium brings out the strangest and most subconscious stuff in people. I believe you learn people's character under pressure and under difficulty and also when they believe they are 'anonymous' too. It is strange. This medium taps into the deepest recesses of the human psyche. The bad and the good too. And if you are the 'moderator' you better be enforcing the rules with consistency or risk having the site being taken over by all kinds of less than healthy people posting in a way that is detrimental.

Me entiendes?

[RPR]

I totally understand where you are coming from. Like Miranda says, you have to crack the whip lol. I am on many sites and I have to tell you.....some come and go and usually most sites die off becuase they have a heavy hand and moderators shut down posters for silly reasons. I am not saying that you do this but I have a sense that some people stay away because of this on here.Btw I'm not blaming you for this websites's lack of particiaption. I just want to make that clear. There are are other annoying things on here.For example when I first signed up, i had a different name and after of two months of not being able to log in and emailing admin....i said the hell with it.Small things like that are really the driving force to a grave for a website.

[L_F_Miranda]

RPR said:

OK this posting is not for the light hearted you have been warned. Hopefully, I will not get banned for this lol.

RPR, I don't know why you think this post or thread might be offensive, in fact its refreshing to have people express their feelings, its right up my alley.

And RPR continued:

I thinks its hilarious how Miranda and Suki wonder how there is a low participation rate on this site.

By low participation I might have meant, there are not many active participants. There may be a lot of lurkers, some who might think:

1-"Ay, ahí van esos come mierdas de nuevo"........

2-"Esos communistas los deben enviar a Rusia o a Cuba".....

3-"Para pendantería es mejor que se queden callaos"........

4- "They should get a life!"

Do I have a life after PR.Com. You better believe it! LOL

And RPR lets me have it! LOL

First of all, Miranda is a know it all..........

Sorry If I come through that way. I prefer to be classified a "provcateur", but not in a negative sense, but as one who stimulates discussion. I know that a lot of what I write here are my own thoughts, which I sense may be totally opposite from the regular run of the mill Rican world of Shopping Malls, consummerism and having a good time. By the way, all of these I do too, but..................

For example, I was in a PR town cafetín last year and some guys were talking about how they've traveled the world. They've been to Disney and taken a couple of cruises around the islands. Another went to Texas and yet another to Las Vegas. One of them asked me, "and you Miranda, what do you have to say?" I didn't want to respond, but I said to myself, "the heck with it."

I told them I had just come back from Vietnam and Cambodia. There was a silence among them until one said, "well its time to go and they left me with my beer. LOL

I told this story to other friends of mine and they said, "¿Pero para que te pones a decirle eso a "esa gente"? "Cuando bregas con "esa gente", es mejor quedarte callao."

I guess its a no win situation.

RPR, I just simply write what I know and have experienced. If its different from what other Ricans know or have lived, that's really not my problem, is it? Or maybe I should keep conversations within my "own group", but isn't that being very, "Come Mierda." I guess there is no right answer, is there? LOL

Nontheless this medum is to learn from each other, see how others view the world, see how others respond to their reality.

Similar to most gringos, Puerto Ricans have adopted to living in a bubble world, where anything outside the bubble is threatening. One has to view the news and notice how things happening outside the U.S. bubble do not exist.

MMMMMMMM Maybe Israel, Iraq, and a disaster here and there, nothing more. Its sad.

One thing I can tell you is, people have to be flexible because there are many Ricans like me around. The trick is to take us on, to challenge us, not sit quietly and get frustrated.

[Suki]

RPR said:

"I am on many sites and I have to tell you.....some come and go and usually most sites die off becuase they have a heavy hand and moderators shut down posters for silly reasons. "

The problem before was the opposite RPR. The discipline was not consistent on people who grew so used to breaking the rules that they thought what they were doing was endorsed and then were bold enough to go and ask administration to discipline others who were reacting to their disrespectful attitudes and giving out what they were receiving. I don't suggest banning to just anybody. In fact, I have submitted to admin a qurantine for only two posters. Another Rican, who had many MULTIPLE opportunities to change and stop or ignore those posters he had issues with (which were over five by the way), and move on, or face the consequences. He could not stop. That was his problem all along. He could not self regulate, or discipline himself. He had to keep up the harrassment of others or he could not post at all. That is what got him a ban. Plus, not listening to the Super Moderator at all. How much was his own doing? I would say all of it was.

The second one with a ban has been Faraon. Faraon, Juliany, Neron, Alrojovivo were all the same poster. They or HE, was repetitive and would never respond in depth to others commentaries. It was like he was living in his own world and used PuertoRico.Com as a personal journal of his thoughts without wanting to engage with others. He has mulitiple warnings to change his behavior. I don't ban anyone without MANY warnings for opportunities to change. Again, that is fair. Give people fair warning or warnings, and give them the specific reasons for why they might be disciplined to see if they can change or modify their behavior. If they can't. Then they need to be banned. You can't have a site with people who can't recognize authority or rules. Every public discussion group needs rules and boundaries or it becomes a place in which illegal activities happen and the law enforcement types get involved and private companies like Paley Media end up getting sued and losing their rice and beans. That is the way it is RPR.

I hope I clarified.

Suki.

[RPR]

RPR said:

OK this posting is not for the light hearted you have been warned. Hopefully, I will not get banned for this lol.

RPR, I don't know why you think this post or thread might be offensive, in fact its refreshing to have people express their feelings, its right up my alley.

And RPR continued:

I thinks its hilarious how Miranda and Suki wonder how there is a low participation rate on this site.

By low participation I might have meant, there are not many active participants. There may be a lot of lurkers, some who might think:

1-"Ay, ahí van esos come mierdas de nuevo"........

2-"Esos communistas los deben enviar a Rusia o a Cuba".....

3-"Para pendantería es mejor que se queden callaos"........

4- "They should get a life!"

Do I have a life after PR.Com. You better believe it! LOL

And RPR lets me have it! LOL

First of all, Miranda is a know it all..........

Sorry If I come through that way. I prefer to be classified a "provcateur", but not in a negative sense, but as one who stimulates discussion. I know that a lot of what I write here are my own thoughts, which I sense may be totally opposite from the regular run of the mill Rican world of Shopping Malls, consummerism and having a good time. By the way, all of these I do too, but..................

For example, I was in a PR town cafetín last year and some guys were talking about how they've traveled the world. They've been to Disney and taken a couple of cruises around the islands. Another went to Texas and yet another to Las Vegas. One of them asked me, "and you Miranda, what do you have to say?" I didn't want to respond, but I said to myself, "the heck with it."

I told them I had just come back from Vietnam and Cambodia. There was a silence among them until one said, "well its time to go and they left me with my beer. LOL

I told this story to other friends of mine and they said, "¿Pero para que te pones a decirle eso a "esa gente"? "Cuando bregas con "esa gente", es mejor quedarte callao."

I guess its a no win situation.

RPR, I just simply write what I know and have experienced. If its different from what other Ricans know or have lived, that's really not my problem, is it? Or maybe I should keep conversations within my "own group", but isn't that being very, "Come Mierda." I guess there is no right answer, is there? LOL

Nontheless this medum is to learn from each other, see how others view the world, see how others respond to their reality.

Similar to most gringos, Puerto Ricans have adopted to living in a bubble world, where anything outside the bubble is threatening. One has to view the news and notice how things happening outside the U.S. bubble do not exist.

MMMMMMMM Maybe Israel, Iraq, and a disaster here and there, nothing more. Its sad.

One thing I can tell you is, people have to be flexible because there are many Ricans like me around. The trick is to take us on, to challenge us, not sit quietly and get frustrated.

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Not frustrated at all. Just my two cents for what its worth. Although, I should have chosen my words more accurately.What I should have written is that your set in your ways.....However, I don't really think two posters are the main reason a site will lose major traffic.


PS Suki,

I have try creating a new account so I can have a less of a meaningless handle but this si the response that I got:





Dear XavierFL,

Unfortunately your registration at PuertoRico.com Discussion Forum did not meet
our membership requirements. Therefore your registration was deleted.

Sorry,
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