Hillary Clinton's Disgrace!!

[L_F_Miranda]

The Clinton's have never had much class. Its all about themselves " Y QUE SE JODA EL RESTO" .

Its a pity Puerto Ricans are so gullable and can't see beyond their noses when it comes to Gringos.

Most Puerto Ricans favor Hillary over Obama in the primaries but do Puerto Ricans really know how this woman feels about brown people? If it's how she feels about Blacks, then we should revise a lot of things.


Read on if interested...........

May 10, 2008 Op-Ed Columnist

**********Seeds of Destruction********

By BOB HERBERT

The Clintons have never understood how to exit the stage gracefully.

Their repertoire has always been deficient in grace and class. So there was Hillary Clinton cold-bloodedly asserting to USA Today that she was the candidate favored by “hard-working Americans, white Americans,” and that her opponent, Barack Obama, the black candidate, just can’t cut it with that crowd.

“There’s a pattern emerging here,” said Mrs. Clinton.

There is, indeed. There was a name for it when the Republicans were using that kind of lousy rhetoric to good effect: it was called the Southern strategy, although it was hardly limited to the South. Now the Clintons, in their desperation to find some way — any way — back to the White House, have leapt aboard that sorry train.

He can’t win! Don’t you understand? He’s black! He’s black!

The Clintons have been trying to embed that gruesomely destructive message in the brains of white voters and superdelegates for the longest time. It’s a grotesque insult to African-Americans, who have given so much support to both Bill and Hillary over the years.

(Representative Charles Rangel of New York, who is black and has been an absolutely unwavering supporter of Senator Clinton’s White House quest, told The Daily News: “I can’t believe Senator Clinton would say anything that dumb.”)

But it’s an insult to white voters as well, including white working-class voters. It’s true that there are some whites who will not vote for a black candidate under any circumstance. But the United States is in a much better place now than it was when people like Richard Nixon, George Wallace and many others could make political hay by appealing to the very worst in people, using the kind of poisonous rhetoric that Senator Clinton is using now.

I don’t know if Senator Obama can win the White House. No one knows. But to deliberately convey the idea that most white people — or most working-class white people — are unwilling to give an African-American candidate a fair hearing in a presidential election is a slur against whites.

The last time the Clintons had to make a big exit was at the end of Bill Clinton’s second term as president — and they made a complete and utter hash of that historic moment. Having survived the Monica Lewinsky ordeal, you might have thought the Clintons would be on their best behavior.

Instead, a huge scandal erupted when it became known that Mrs. Clinton’s brothers, Tony and Hugh Rodham, had lobbied the president on behalf of criminals who then received presidential pardons or a sentence commutation from Mr. Clinton.

Tony Rodham helped get a pardon for a Tennessee couple that had hired him as a consultant and paid or loaned him hundreds of thousands of dollars. Over the protests of the Justice Department, President Clinton pardoned the couple, Edgar Allen Gregory Jr. and his wife, Vonna Jo, who had been convicted of bank fraud in Alabama.

Hugh Rodham was paid $400,000 to lobby for a pardon of Almon Glenn Braswell, who had been convicted of mail fraud and perjury, and for the release from prison of Carlos Vignali, a drug trafficker who was convicted and imprisoned for conspiring to sell 800 pounds of cocaine. Sure enough, in his last hours in office (when he issued a blizzard of pardons, many of them controversial), President Clinton agreed to the pardon for Braswell and the sentence commutation for Vignali.

Hugh Rodham reportedly returned the money after the scandal became public and was an enormous political liability for the Clintons.

Both Clintons professed to be ignorant of anything improper or untoward regarding the pardons. Once, when asked specifically if she had talked with a deputy White House counsel about pardons, Mrs. Clinton said: “People would hand me envelopes. I would just pass them on. You know, I would not have any reason to look into them.”

It wasn’t just the pardons that sullied the Clintons’ exit from the White House. They took furniture and rugs from the White House collection that had to be returned. And they received $86,000 in gifts during the president’s last year in office, including clothing (a pantsuit, a leather jacket), flatware, carpeting, and so on. In response to the outcry over that, they decided to repay the value of the gifts.

So class is not a Clinton forte.

But it’s one thing to lack class and a sense of grace, quite another to deliberately try and wreck the presidential prospects of your party’s likely nominee — and to do it in a way that has the potential to undermine the substantial racial progress that has been made in this country over many years.

The Clintons should be ashamed of themselves. But they long ago proved to the world that they have no shame.

As they would say in my home town, "QUE CAFRERÍA"!!!!! LOL

[Corvo]

Well said. The clintons would be an other set back for this country. Most european countries laugh at us. So many Americans are asleep at the wheel.

[RPR]

And who wouldn't want to be set back to the booming economy of the 90's

Ethics,morals, class....it's like beauty. All in the eye of the beholder.Obama has been hand picked by the left so no surpise that he is the presumptive nominee. I first learned about him a lil over a year ago when suddenly Yahoo and AOL news were spotlighting him out of the abyss. Back to the topic at hand.

The Clintons will do what it takes to win. Nevermind that they may "piss off" the most loyal voting block the Dems have. Why should they back down though? If Obama was white then this scenario wouid not be playing out. Fact is, Obama is benefiting from being the black,Harvard educated,well spoken candidate.

White Guilt is a funny thing really.....

Now,the general elections are a different animal.... On a lighter note:


YouTube - "NEW" Hillary Clinton campaign ad on Jimmy Kimmel Live

[L_F_Miranda]

The more Hillary stays in the race the more she helps Obama. If she would have dropped out in March Obama wouldn't be where he is now.

How Come?

1. SHE MADE HIM A GIANT KILLER

No matter what happens in the fall, if Obama goes on to win the nomination, he'll be remembered as the candidate who beat the Clintons and the Clinton political machine.

“He is stronger for having beaten the champion,” The Clinton's were invincible before Super Tuesday, Obama did away with that myth.


2. SHE MADE HIM ANGRY

Obama’s relentless hope-hope-hope campaign put him in danger of being seen as soft, Hillary took out the aggression in him. She transformed him from Obambi into today's OBAMA.

3. SHE LED HIM TO THE WORKING CLASS

Hillary's success with this constituency exposed Obama's vulnerability with it — a vulnerability he might not have known existed to such an extent had Hillary dropped out early and Obama breezed to the nomination. At least now he has time to work getting their support.

4. THE WRIGHT FIGHT

While this doesn’t involve Hillary directly, the long primary battle allowed the emergence, and re-emergence, of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., to take place now, rather than later. As proven by the out come in Indiana and North Carolina, Wright has become past history. Even if he pops us later Obama will be ready to deal with the fall out.


5. HILLARY HELPED DEFINE OBAMA

Because of Hillary's constant *****ing amd moaning, she inadvertently helped define her opponent. Obama is now a better prepared and better defined candidate, and no doubt a stronger one, than he would have been without his rival. He went through 21 debates against a tough and angry Hillary, and improved steadily (with an exception in Philadelphia last month). He has made mistakes, but nothing fatal, and nothing he can’t learn from.

6. AND HAS THE RACE BEEN SO BAD?

Hillary has also been criticized for using arguments against Obama that Republicans might use in the fall. She has suggested, in so many words, that Mr. Obama is all talk, that he is not experienced, that he might not be ready to be commander in chief. Yet these are arguments that will be used against Obama despite Hillary.

Or did we all think Republicans are so dumb not to come up with them? .

Bottom-line, Hillary's presence is preparing Obama for the fallout he should expect in the fall, so the more she stays in the race the more she helps him.

Stay On Hillary!!!!!! GO GIRL!!!!!!!

[Corvo]

Thats an interesting post. But they all learn from their mistakes, even Mcain. OBama's words are no emptier than any other candidate, ever. Words are all they can run on, none of the others have done all that much either. and that comment about obama being where he is, is only because he is black is the siliest thing I have ever heard, it's false.

People are just sick and tired of all the spin. I hope you are not one of those that believes the nonesense played on FOX news. Now that mis-information is just plain crazy.

[RPR]

Originally Posted by Corvo

Thats an interesting post. But they all learn from their mistakes, even Mcain. OBama's words are no emptier than any other candidate, ever. Words are all they can run on, none of the others have done all that much either. and that comment about obama being where he is, is only because he is black is the siliest thing I have ever heard, it's false.

People are just sick and tired of all the spin. I hope you are not one of those that believes the nonesense played on FOX news. Now that mis-information is just plain crazy.

Corvo, I said that he was the choice of the left and that he was a "well spoken" black to boot.That's why the left media is in infactuated with him.I put "well spoken" in parentheses because I feel it is so disparaging.If I had a dime for everytime I've been told that I don't speak with an accent....Anyhow,Chris Matthews who is the political director fo MSNBC said that he " felt a chill go up his leg" after hearing Obama give a speech LMAO. Interesting thing about a leftie like Chris is that he never was around blacks till after college. I mean seriously.....there are many cultured blacks ,if you'e in the right circles. MSNBC and NBC has annointed Obama and he can't do no wrong. He is a politician just like Hillay and McCain. My gut feelings tells me he is a phoney. Only time will tell

[Corvo]

Thanks for the clearification. RPR I'm curious, what was your gut feelings about the current Bush? I did know, he was up to no good.