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Old 20th April 2009, 09:43
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Talking Conservatives and fascists

In Europe a Conservative is more like an American Liberal and a Fascist is more like an American Conservative.

Frank Sammon spells it out in the following:

There are some similarities between the right wing of the GOP, and the most reprehensible regime ever inflicted on mankind, Hitler and his Nazi henchmen.

Here the similarities:

1. The general feeling, whether spoken out right, or kept not-so-subtly-hidden, of being better than others.

Nazis, like Republicans, and Republicans, like Nazis, think they’re better. They’re white. They don’t like, not necessarily in this order of dislike, nig*ers, spics, gooks, zips (Koreans), dinks (Chinese), wops, Jew kikes, Japs, wet-back greasers, camel-jockeys and sand n*gers (Arabs), Frogs, foreigners, immigrants, faggots and butch lesbians, and a host of others.

Republicans often talk about (white) Americans as though they’re God’s chosen people, the only people who matter (in the war in Iraq, no mention has ever been made of the number of Iraqis killed because they don’t matter). The Nazis of course called themselves the Master Race.

2. Religious Xenophobia. God is a Republican. The Republicans tie religious belief to their supposed superiority, and to politics and policy-setting. They know God. You don’t. God favors them, not you, if you disagree with them. The German Nazis had belt buckles that read, “Gott Mitt Uns” (God is with us).

3. Patriotism as propaganda. Republicans consistently and improperly display the flag, often from car antennas, to demonstrate their patriotic resolve, when the flag was meant to be displayed properly, only in places where decorum would allow dignity. The flag was not meant to be a feckless political prop to back a right wing world viewpoint. For their part, the German Nazis had rallies with thousands of flags.

4. Love of war. The Republicans used to pride themselves as the party that didn’t start wars, the Democrats did. No more. Today, they never saw a war they didn’t like (they won’t admit it), and view war not as a purely defensive measure as the Founding Fathers intended, but as a useful tool, an instrument of shaping foreign policy. The German Nazis use of war is well known to the world.

5. Love of radio propaganda. Political talk radio is a largely right-wing creation, to counter what conservatives endlessly contend is the liberally biased mainstream media, and has mushroomed across the country, fed by angry white boys who like to listen to it. It is hosted by a host of American Joseph Goebbels (German minister of propaganda) imitators, who dispense false accusations, right-wing claptrap and mocking, thinly-disguised hate for those who disagree with them. Their most recognizable traits are smugness and the school-yard bully mean spirit.

6. The cult of the leader (fuehrer). Democrats may praise the tough pluck of little Harry Truman, or the dignified wisdom of FDR, but mythologizing conservatives as some kind of gods brought down from on-high is a right-wing phenomenon that has recently grown in scope. Current deification efforts include among others, Ronald Reagan, John Wayne and the pre-posthumous Rush Limbaugh. The Germans of course had Hitler.

7. Use of diversions. The Germans used the Reichstag fire of 1933 to suspend civil liberties under emergency decree. George W. Bush used 9-11 to invade Iraq under the guise of false weapons of mass destruction, and to re-make the Middle East. He did illegal wire taps of American citizens to make Americans supposedly safer. Both German and American citizens largely accepted these measures with docility and without debate or protest.

8. Use of scapegoats. The Germans called people they didn’t like “sub-humans.” The right-wing Republicans call them “bad Americans.”

9. Contempt for Democracy. Hitler said Democracy was corrupt, soft. Bush said being a dictator would be easier than being president.

10. The blame game, or denial of bad news. Conservatives, in power for eight years, blame Obama for the country’s impending economic collapse. Hitler said his generals let him down.
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Old 29th April 2009, 21:19
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What a bunch of BS. If you compare the NAZI ideology to modern socialism and American Progressive movement then you can find the same thing. My God, you can always find if you look hard enough for the quinta pata del gato.
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What a bunch of BS. If you compare the NAZI ideology to modern socialism and American Progressive movement then you can find the same thing. My God, you can always find if you look hard enough for the quinta pata del gato.

You make no sense. Tell us how what you state is so. tell us please how Progressives promote war and are exclusive. Though it's a bit exstream, the above comments are not too far from the truth.

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Who gives a damn about what hardcore leftist like Frank Sammon has to say?

Is just more liberal BS propaganda...
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Old 5th July 2009, 00:23
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You make no sense. Tell us how what you state is so. tell us please how Progressives promote war and are exclusive. Though it's a bit exstream, the above comments are not too far from the truth.

You know when if it smells, looks and feel like BS then it is BS! Let me expand and try to explain the statements are full of it and if you look hard you can see how you can find la quinta pata del gato.

1. Conservative don't believe in abortion unless under certain conditions. The Nazis believed in abortion to reduce the chances of not bringing into the world a healthy Aryan child. The liberal mind states that women have the right to abortion, no question asked since they believe that a women's body is her own not taking into account that it is not her money, but societies' funds that provide the procedure.

2. Free Speech no matter how dumb and illogical is allowed as long it does not incite violence is tolerated. The Nazis believed that if you did not say what they wanted then you were an enemy of the Fatherland.The liberal state that conservative talk radio must be reign in through the "Fairness Doctrine" knowing full well that it would destroy those that speak about and disagree with liberal ideas. Even a liberal like Alan Colmes states it would destroy liberal talk shows like his!

3. Nazis believed that government was the supreme entity and more meant better for the people and the Aryan nation. Many Liberals believe that more government is best for society while conservatives believe in less government.

4. Nazis believed that business served society best under their direction and policies, as long as it fit their national agenda. Sounds familiar?

You see, if you Iook for things that are similar to what Nazis believed in you can make it look like liberals were like Nazis in their push for government dominance in national affairs. It is stupid to believe that anything that is similar is necessarily the same as something else! Finding the quinta pata del gato....
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