Tim McVeigh's Railroad job

[Lorelei]

Your post:
The Federal Government had NO AUTHORITY whatsover to invade/incinerate/massacre 87 individuals - 22 children - in Waco, Texas (circa 1993).

My reply:
And so tell me, who gave McVeigh the authority to declare war? I don't remember voting him into any office. Killing those people (children included) in Oklahoma did not undo what happened in Waco.

Your post:
We are slowly finding out that FDR PURPOSELY caused the death of , at least, 3,000 soldiers , initially, in order to have a pretext to enter the war:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/sobran/sobran122.html

My reply:
This web page doesn't give me enough information to accept your point. What was Roosevelt's primary reason to want to enter the war in Europe? Did it maybe have to do with the other slaughter that Hitler was perpetrating on the Jews?

[Poncepr68]

Contu;

What in the world are you getting at? Instead of mumbling just say what ever it is that you trying to say? Tell you what I will wait a little longer while you beat around the bush!

[Contu_Macious]

>>>>>>"And so tell me, who gave McVeigh the authority to declare war? I don't remember voting him into any office. Killing those people (children included) in Oklahoma did not undo what happened in Waco. "<<<<<<

Neither did killing innocent people in Nagasaki, Hiroshima... undo whatever had happened previously. Merely because they were declare wars did NOT make the innocent less death!!!!!!!

At any rate, assuming, arguendo, that he was the perpetrator we should not forget that ***WE THE PEOPLE***, not the government officials, are the GUARDIANS of the Constitution:

Alexander Hamilton Federalist 16.13:

"If the people were not tainted with the spirit of their State representatives, they, as the natural guardians of the Constitution, would throw their weight into the national scale and give it a decided preponderancy in the contest. Attempts of this kind would not often be made with levity or rashness, because they could seldom be made without danger to the authors, unless in cases of a tyrannical exercise of the federal authority."
http://www.law.emory.edu/FEDERAL/fed...t/feder16.html

Furthermore, it is NOT a matter of getting elected but noticing the massive abuse perpetrated by a tyrannical federal government and then acting on those MORAL PRINCIPLES!!!!!!!


>>>>>>"What was Roosevelt's primary reason to want to enter the war in Europe?"<<<<<<


"During World War I, the British journalist, Randolph Bourne coined the phrase, "war is the health of the state." The Oxford University Press book, Crisis in Leviathan, by our senior fellow, Robert Higgs, shows that government power has primarily expanded in American history as a series of discrete major leaps. These leaps have occurred largely at the time of real or imagined war crises as declared by political leaders. Throughout history, war time has always been presented by rulers of any type to a public at a time when the normal rules of civil society are inadequate and must be disbanded, so the government officials can act without the inconvenient restraint of the rule of law. Special government powers are then marshaled to conscript, tax and control the public in order to deal with the peril, real or imagined.
http://www.independent.org/tii/forum...4ipfTrans.html

[Poncepr68]

Contu;

You are a piece of art, you and other like you (McVeigh) are nothing but cowards. You declare war by killing innocent children you and your topic are pathetic, enough of your complete ignorance!

[Contu_Macious]

>>>>>"Also, since you feel this way about McVeigh, than that tells me you would be or should be equally concerned about the "government's" attack on ..."<<<<<

I would feel the same way about any equally situated individual whose due process rights have been denied by Kangaroo Court proceedings.

[conciencia]

Contu;

I believe "do process" does not apply for those who admite to be guilty as well as overwhelming evidence of guiltiness.

[Contu_Macious]

>>>>>>"I believe "do process" does not apply for those who admite to be guilty as well as overwhelming evidence of guiltiness."<<<<<<

That is TRUE . . . in Cuba and points beyond. It is NOT supposed be true in these United States.