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Old 12th January 2001, 15:18
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TU NO SABES SI VIENES O VAZ

[Contu][Usted no sabes si vienes o vaz pro lo he leido de ti me parace que usted no esta conforme con nada. For what I have read from you it seems that you are not happy with anything. Based on your statement,,you just simply do not trust in humankind thus, Why do you seek with so much fervor a trial for Mc Veigh; if you just hung your hat on the US system. For what I can see and dicern you just love to stir the S__T to see reactions. Your circle around questions and never answer, just hide your questions with other point of views, but never get to the point.

Maybe you should state what are your true fears and we here in this forum will perhaps assist you.

We all know enough about Mc Veigh, he knows he is in a dead end. An early seek of his sentence will send a strong message to others that think and simpathize with him. That is why he needs to wait at the end of the line like everybody else.

]Originally posted by Contu_Macious [/i]
>>>>>"Why did you come to PuertoRico.com to insult us? "<<<<<

Are Adjuntenos allowed to participate in PuertoRico.com or are we excluded?

>>>>>"You think we're all on food stamps or welfare or Castro sympathizers. "<<<<<

Nope. I want to demonstrate that it is very difficult for a JUROR to be IMPARTIAL if the same is FINANCIALLY dependent upon one of the parties to a lawsuit. Government employees and those dependent on "mantengo" were NOT excluded from McVeigh's "trial".

>>>>>>"We recognize that some people that were a part of this government have done some horrific things. But that doesn't mean that EVERYONE in government is bad."<<<<<<

"Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the form of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question." --Thomas Jefferson: 1st Inaugural, 1801. ME 3:320









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Old 13th January 2001, 01:43
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>>>>>"So is he innocent? "<<<<<<

Could you please identify the post in which I made that allegation? I HAVE suggested that the gentleman be TRIED for any alleged crimes !!!!!


>>>>>>"Really what is your point and what is your intention with this game of yours?"<<<<<<


To demonstrate that we no longer have a Constitutional Republic but a fascistic welfare/warfare state.
If you read what I wrote you can tell that I was asking you a question concerning his guilt or innocence. You questioned someone here about know if he was guilty well I ask you how do you know that he is not! By the way are you a lawyer?
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Old 13th January 2001, 06:43
Contu_Macious Contu_Macious is offline
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>>>>>>"If you read what I wrote you can tell that I was asking you a question concerning his guilt or innocence. You questioned someone here about know if he was guilty well I ask you how do you know that he is not! "<<<<<<


tri·al [trl , trl ] noun (plural tri·als)

1. LAW formal legal process: a formal examination of the facts and law in a civil or criminal action before a court of law in order to determine an issue

Encarta® World English Dictionary [North American Edition] © & (P) 1999-2000 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Developed for Microsoft by Bloomsbury Publishing Plc.

As you can see by DEFINITION a TRIAL is supposed to be a SEARCH FOR THE ***TRUTH*** not a mere formality before lynching someone.
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Old 13th January 2001, 08:00
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Contu;

I did not ask for the definition of LAW, etc... I ask whether or not did you know for sure if he was innocent and if so how do you know! Just answer the question, that is if you are in liberty!
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Old 13th January 2001, 09:06
Contu_Macious Contu_Macious is offline
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>>>>>>>"I did not ask for the definition of LAW, etc... I ask whether or not did you know for sure if he was innocent and if so how do you know! Just answer the question, that is if you are in liberty!"<<<<<<

As a Constitutionalist I firmly adhere to the DUE PROCESS principle which holds:


presumption of innocence
n. a fundamental protection for a person accused of a crime, which requires the prosecution to prove its case against the defendant beyond a reasonable doubt. This is opposite from the criminal law in many countries, where the accused is considered guilty until he/ she proves his/her innocence or the government completely fails to prove its case.
http://dictionary.law.com/definition...d=%7C%7C%7C%7C

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Old 13th January 2001, 11:40
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When will you answer the question and stop given definitions where they are not needed. Oh I almost forgot this makes it the 3rd time now that you avoid a question do not tell me you have a phobia for question!
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