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Old 16th September 2000, 22:43
EL_BORICUA EL_BORICUA is offline
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I found this in the history forum,it was
posted by IDEJESUS and I hope she does not
mind that I borrowed it,but it is an excellent paper and should be read by all: http://www-mcnair.berkeley.edu/98journal/avillafane



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Old 18th September 2000, 13:04
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I read the article. It was very informative. I have been reading a couple of the forums and it seems that many people feel that Puerto Rico should be independent. I fail to see the benefits of it only because I am looking at it as the immediate results of independence. I like to see the security for our people even thought I don't feel we should remain a commonwealth. Does anyone have any idea of the complications that could result for the people of Puerto Rico, if we do become independent. I want to hear the benefits, realistically speaking and not the romanticism of being autonomist. What will happen to the jobs, schools, etc. Please tell me.

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Old 18th September 2000, 15:06
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Boricua:

Here's another interesting write up on PR: http://csf.colorado.edu/mail/psn/2000/msg00949.html.

I'm glad somebody's reading these posts.
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Old 19th September 2000, 12:36
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El Boricua

I read what you asked and again I will say very interesting but as "Leticia.g" has said I have ask many times. Without romanticism of autonomy, patriotism, etc... Just give the pros and the cons of Independence. I could not answer sooner due to my service provider have problems.

IdeJesus,

I always read what ever is posted and like I told "El Boricua" once I am very honest I will tell you what I think and many times You may not like what I say.
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Old 19th September 2000, 18:11
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I invite you to read the papers in these two
sites maybe it could help you understand http://www.phys.psu.edu/~lopez/indfaq.html http://www.independencia.net/prindepend_rla.html



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Old 19th September 2000, 20:30
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Boricua, Lenny, IDeJesus:

I read your comments and web sites with great interest. It is good to see that their is a legitimate plan, however the amount of years for the change is great. Hopefully in my lifetime something good will occur to Puerto Rico. U.S does give dual citizenship, however, they do require you to say you are an American above another country's citenzenship. Concerning social security taxes contributed by Puerto Rican's, They can have it transferred over because the US does grant that to other countries. Many of the statements are true in the US foreign dealings, however the crucial and most important one is to remain neutral with the US. To make sure that Socialism/Communism does not sneak in. We will need a strong government backed by the majority of the people. That is something that I think will take time.

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[quote]Originally posted by Leticia.g:
>>Concerning social security taxes contributed by Puerto Rican's, They can have it transferred over because the US does grant that to other countries. Many of the statements are true in the US foreign dealings, however the crucial and most important one is to remain neutral with the US. To make sure that Socialism/Communism does not sneak in. We will need a strong government backed by the majority of the people. That is something that I think will take time.<<

Leticia.g is in a contradiction with what she said about the socialist program known as Social Security.

She is so brainwashed by the propaganda of the Goliath of the North that she attacks socialism along with communism.

Leticia you are so worried about socialist programs "sneaking" into Puerto Rico, but yet you want to have your cake and eat it too by greedily looking forward to all the S.S. pensions being payed (and they will too even though our Island Nation becomes a Republic).

Be aware Leticia that without the socialists and all the intelligent and forward-looking social legislation that they have produced and advanced, many countries would have been thrown into depressions or financial panics that would be the equal of the Great Depression that afflicted the U.S. in 1929, and which was caused by anti-socialist capitalists like you are.

Forget about for the moment discussing communism, because that doesn't apply to the socialist Republic that the United States is anyway. There will be time enough to discuss the crossing of that bridge when and if the Boricuas ever come to it.

THE RECOGNITION OF WHAT IS NECESSARY IS FREEDOM!!!

Hacia la Victoria Siempre Boricuas,
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