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Old 1st June 2000, 16:50
Catalina_Parma Catalina_Parma is offline
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You got it. That is all we want, to be able to get the gringos out of Puerto Rico. If anybody wants to live in a state, then let them move to one. The ones who don't, then leave us in peace, and away from you pitiyanquis.
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Old 12th June 2000, 21:53
Peter_Roman Peter_Roman is offline
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Sorry, but PR is a nation and would always be. Is true, we don't have a president of our own but we could have one. Yes, we need a leader to move us there. But why is PR a nation. Just look at it. All those beautiful towns, all those beautiful natural birds and etc. In this coming election our people would vote in a different way. I go out there and see more and more people taking down their PNP flags. I once believe in state hood but not any more, thanks God.

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Old 17th June 2000, 07:41
Peter_Roman Peter_Roman is offline
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This is for Catalina:

I believe you are a woman or a young woman
saying what you believe. So don't stop.
Write what you believe in. Maybe we could learn something from it. Take care.
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Old 18th June 2000, 10:26
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Catalina Parma,

Se noto que eres PIPiola, ahora te pregunto tu dices que los que quieren vivir en un estado que se vaya y que te dejen vivir en paz, verdad? eso tambien va para los independentista que se muda a los Estados Unidos? Espero tu respuesta.
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Old 19th June 2000, 10:59
Boricua-in-US Boricua-in-US is offline
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Originally posted by Catalina Parma:
Keeptrying:

You got it. That is all we want, to be able to get the gringos out of Puerto Rico. If anybody wants to live in a state, then let them move to one. The ones who don't, then leave us in peace, and away from you pitiyanquis.

Dear Catalina,

Make sure you take a good look at yourself in the mirror before you stereotype others. Let me tell you this, I may disagree with you and others on many issues discussed here and that's ok. We keep each other in check. However, I must say that when I read most remarks made by independentistas sometimes I'm speechless about the "ridiculous" and "non-sense" being said here by some. The only thing I hear is how much you and others dislike Americans and the democratic system we have. Well you know, no government system is perfect (democratic or not) but there are many advantages of being a democracy than to be a communist country. I have been around the world (like many others who are members here) and there are people out there that would give anything to have the things you take for granted, some have even died trying to reach that goal. Puerto Rico has more authonomy with the United States than it did while Spain ruled everything. You had no rights with the Spaniards, you have rights under the current system. You had no citizenship with Spain, you have one now (like it or not) and many Puerto Ricans before you and me elected to bring it home to not only better themselves but the future of those who would come and lead after they were gone. Those Puerto Ricans knew exactly what they were doing and did it right. We have political authonomy, we elect our public officials and empower them to represent us and make laws to the best of their abilities. Things are not perfect but when things don't go right for Puerto Ricans there is a tendency to point the finger at someone else, no one wants to assume responsibilities for their own actions, that's where the problem is. There are a lot of hard working Puerto Ricans, but there are others who can prosper but elect not to do so and prefer focus their energy on negative things and disrupt progress. Usually those are the one's that are always with a gripe about something or blaming others for their lack of initiative and self esteem. You see, pipiolos are not "team players", is like going to the park to play ball, if you don't get to play you cry and take the ball home so that nobody else get to play! The shaping of our future, that be in the U.S. or Puerto Rico rests in our hands, its a team effort. Besides blaming the Americans for some of Puerto Rico's failures is not right. Let me ask you, what have you done for Puerto Rico lately? If you are a true team player then you'd do the right thing. Better education, a more responsible society, a zero drug tolerance policy and laws. Then you can look back and regardless of what you believe in, you can feel good about the contribution you have made not only to society but to the future of Puerto Rico, our youth!

Thank you and have a good day.

Regards,
Raul Rosas


[This message has been edited by Boricua-in-US (edited 19 June 2000).]

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Old 19th June 2000, 11:04
Boricua-in-US Boricua-in-US is offline
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Originally posted by Boricua-in-US:

Dear Catalina,

Make sure you take a good look at yourself in the mirror before you stereotype others. Let me tell you this, I may disagree with you and others on many issues discussed here and that's ok. We keep each other in check. However, I must say that when I read most remarks made by independentistas sometimes I'm speechless about the "ridiculous" and "non-sense" being said here by some. The only thing I hear is how much you and others dislike Americans and the democratic system we have. Well you know, no government system is perfect (democratic or not) but there are many advantages of being a democracy than to be a communist country. I have been around the world (like many others who are members here) and there are people out there that would give anything to have the things you take for granted, some have even died trying to reach that goal. Puerto Rico has more authonomy with the United States than it did while Spain ruled everything. You had no rights with the Spaniards, you have rights under the current system. You had no citizenship with Spain, you have one now (like it or not) and many Puerto Ricans before you and me elected to bring it home to not only better themselves but the future of those who would come and lead after they were gone. Those Puerto Ricans knew exactly what they were doing and did it right. We have political authonomy, we elect our public officials and empower them to represent us and make laws to the best of their abilities. Things are not perfect but when things don't go right for Puerto Ricans there is a tendency to point the finger at someone else, no one wants to assume responsibilities for their own actions, that's where the problem is. There are a lot of hard working Puerto Ricans, but there are others who can prosper but elect not to do so and prefer focus their energy on negative things and disrupt progress. Usually those are the one's that are always with a gripe about something or blaming others for their lack of initiative and self esteem. You see, pipiolos are not "team players", is like going to the park to play ball, if you don't get to play you cry and take the ball home so that nobody else get to play! The shaping of our future, that be in the U.S. or Puerto Rico rests in our hands, its a team effort. Besides blaming the Americans for some of Puerto Rico's failures is not right, we have failed in many areas as a society. Let me ask you, what have you done for Puerto Rico lately? If you are a true team player then you'd do the right thing. Better education, a more responsible society, a zero drug tolerance policy and laws. Then you can look back and regardless of what you believe in, you can feel good about the contribution you have made not only to society but to the future of Puerto Rico, our youth!

Thank you and have a good day.

Regards,
Raul Rosas


[This message has been edited by Boricua-in-US (edited 19 June 2000).]
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Old 19th June 2000, 13:48
juan_lopez8433 juan_lopez8433 is offline
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hey Mike Cordero or is it Mike Sheep since you say american change the names to everything shows how much you know bro...better lay off that crack, statehood is good for Puerto Rico, remember you can have the best of two world, the USA is getting tried of taking care of us. And dont say they dont take care of me because in one way or another every Puerto Rican in this island had some type of benefit from Uncle Sam, food stamp, FEMA, College grant, SSN, retirement, and so on, I am proud of being a Puertorican but I am also proud of being an American, I rather pay Federal Tax than state taxes..at least I know my money went somewhere.
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