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Old 6th October 2000, 11:49
EL_BORICUA EL_BORICUA is offline
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Papo,
What La Loca says is true terrorism will not
change the determination of the U.S.Govt. to
make Puerto Rico a state if it chooses to,
but the U.S.Govt. has an achilles'heel it
is public opinion and that is easy to sway
if there were to be an armed struggle,americans dont have the stomach for that,especially when they believe the are
doing Puerto Rico a favor by granting statehood,it would not take much to turn them
against Puerto Rican statehood.
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Old 6th October 2000, 20:22
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My friends...
You are figuring this all wrong.

First if we won by a mayority of votes it still has to go to Congress and they will do what will be best for USA. Once they grant Statehood. Independentistas can't do nothing about it. (Look at Hawaiians that believe in independence). They are still a State.

Now in the other hand if independentistas try to raise up before they grant us Statehood they will be Squashed by other Puerto Ricans which won't permit this to happen.

Lets take a look at Numbers and percentages.
If you have 3% to 4% wanting Independence out of 4 million, that is about 120,000 people. Now remember that out of those 4 million are being counted dominicans, cubans and so forth. Lets figure that about 3% of 120,000 are willing to revolt. Or lets even figure 10% that only leaves you with 12000 people wich are not trained, contrary to what Papo Blair thinks.(He is dreaming of France with tunnels and so forth) The most they can do is do a demonstration against becoming a State. (Like in La Telefonica)
and it did not persuaded away GTE of buying it.
Demonstrations will happened just like in Hawaii but it still became a State.

Now let me say.

They worry about loosing the culture like if culture was something that stays still, that it freezes. No.... The culture is changing as we speak. Little by little, day by day, it is something that is going to happen no matter what. This people talk without reasoning... Como una mujer que ama a un tecato sin pensar en el futuro ni el daño que se hará.
Se debe ser PATRIOTA NO IDIOTA.
Tu no puedes amar la tierra mas que a la familia. Sería una contradicción.

Yo respeto el ideal independentista. Creo que están equivocados. Dicen que el amor es Ciego. Pero esto sería el colmo.

When push comes to shove we will become a State. And they will have to live with it. If they are as democratic as they claim to be they will accept the mayoritys choice. If not it will be shown that they are comunist and as such shall be treated. (I do not believe you are, I hope you don't prove me wrong)
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Old 7th October 2000, 06:11
Papo_Blair Papo_Blair is offline
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Section 936 phased out is another
Way to force us to take Statehood.

Thousands of workers if not millions of workers would lose their jobs When Section 936 is phased out. By the year 2005 section 936 will Be complety phased out. Many jobs have already been lost during The previous several years due to the phase out. More worrisome Has been the inability to attract comparably paying jobs to Puerto Rico to substitute for those that have been lost.
Why? How could this happen to Puerto Rico? Very simple. They want to force Puerto Rico to become part of the United State by the forces of the PNP and they don’t care
If millions lose there jobs in Puerto Rico. Without Section 936 American co and other companies would have to pay federal taxes
Even thought PR is not a state. This is almost the same thing The happen when England force taxes to the American colonies.
How can these companies pay federal taxes when the laws say Very clear, No taxes without representation. This companies paying
Taxes are okay if Puerto Rico was a state but is not. But tanks God the we have Latin congressman fighting to come With something new. One of them is Luis V. Gutierrez.
He is a member of congress. His phone is 202-225-8203. Him and other are working on H.R. 2138. What is H.R. 2138? This is to amend the Internal Revenue Code to extent the credit for Businesses operating in Prico
And also help other possessions of the US. This bill would Allow for existing and new companies operating in PR to Benefit from a credit against their federal corporate tax liability. The goal of this important legislation is to attract investment and
Job creation by more companies. Another reason to say No to Statehood. No one should force our people to become A state by removing jobs from PR!
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Old 7th October 2000, 13:39
thegenie thegenie is offline
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Papo you are pathetic...
When I read your postings it reminds me of the movie...
Dumb and Dumber

Listen buddy..

In 1991 unemployment rate was over 20% here in PR. Today is under 10%. How in hell do you explain that?

You are so pro ELA that your leaders have you blind.

You are either not looking or you just don't want to admit that ELA is done.

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Old 9th October 2000, 09:37
Papo_Blair Papo_Blair is offline
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One thing the I can't understand is how could
those who believe in statehood go on doing
so when you have enemies in Washington.
Time and time again they have stop the
moment to making Puerto Rico a state.
Don't you get it? They don't want us.
Also, they have not even help the PPD get
to the point they want. So you see, freedom
for Puerto Rico is the only option and is
the option the Washington will faunally give
to Puerto Rico.
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Old 9th October 2000, 10:37
Papo_Blair Papo_Blair is offline
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One thing the I can't understand is how could
those who believe in statehood go on doing
so when you have enemies in Washington.
Time and time again they have stop the
moment to making Puerto Rico a state.
Don't you get it? They don't want us.
Also, they have not even help the PPD get
to the point they want. So you see, freedom
for Puerto Rico is the only option and is
the option the Washington will faunally give
to Puerto Rico.
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Old 9th October 2000, 11:00
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Papo:

I don't know why you are wasting your time with Genie who is in sales can't you see he isn't happy with his job !! He thinks that by making P.R a state he will have an even better job in sales and making more commission ! Maybe he just wants to add "Welfare" to his income !

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