We need more Statehooders..

[PhiDaWg61]

I, unlike yourself, have never come across ardent statehooders who can be compared to as rats, roaches, snakes, etc. My experiences have been with stateside Puerto Ricans who generally do not see themselves as American as apple pie and are proud to be of Puerto Rican descent. I once came across a female student from Chicago who stated she was Puerto Rican. I asked her what she thought about the thr holy trinity... commonwealth, independence, and statehood. She right away blurted out, "Statehood." When I asked her for her reasoning, she said that "it would be better for Puerto Rico." Mind you, this person is about to receive an undergraduate degree with honors.

She then went on and on how she didn't know all that much about PR politics but that independence would be "bad". But to make a long story short, I do not see her as a roach, rat, or whatever. Just misguided. If she was to ever relocate to Puerto Rico and vote in the local elections, would be like so many other "misguided" voters. Not roaches. I think it all boils down to media coverage.

Working for a major cable news network, I find myself like the rest of the country bombarded with material on Israel, Israel, and in todays news and weather, Israel. I know that there are more powerful forces at work here when it comes to what we see and hear. My point is that Puerto Rico can sink into the sea and we in the states would not know about it cause front page headline news would be about how an Arab "farted" in front of an Israeli. Thank God for Univision... uh oh.. they were just purchased by GE who owns NBC. Hmmm...

What do you think?

[Es_Vedra]

Originally posted by PhiDaWg61
I, unlike yourself, have never come across ardent statehooders who can be compared to as rats, roaches, snakes, etc.

¿Y qué de Barbosa y Rosselló entonces? ¿O McKlintock? No me hagas reir. Usted debe estar relajando o algo así, porque si no, a mi me parece que usted no sabe historia.

¿Sabe lo que hicieron ellos en contra de la independencia y la soberanía de nuestro país?

Si no son serpientes y ratones, ¿qué serán entonces? Dime tu. ¿Y qué de toda la corrupción de los Penepeístas? ¿Qué de Fajardo? ¿Qué de Mirian? ¿Usted está loco? ¿Me dirá que estas personas no son ratones? ¡A pues usted es loco entonces!

[Es_Vedra]

Los anexionistas se ven turbitas tratando de hacerle la vida imposible a los independentistas y utilizando argumentos anacrónicos y ridículos.

No pierdan de perspectiva que esta gente acusaron a los independentistas por muchos actos de terrorismo, caluminando y todo, disque bombas o amenazas, que ellos mismos hacían para desacreditar a todos los independentistas por igual. Así mismo justificaban como mataron a Arnaldo Rosado y a Soto Arrivi, diciendo que eran una organización de izquierda y la realidad fue que siguieron todo el plan de la rata Gonzalez Malave, que los llevó al matadero, para luego declarar a los asesinos policias "heroes" como lo hizo el Caballo Romero.

Hoy en día la mayoría de la gente sabe que el movimiento partidista pipiolo es uno que busca democraticamente representar y defender los intereses legitimos de muchos Puertorriqueños.

Es_Vedra

[PhiDaWg61]

look somewhere else cause I'm not your enemy. Let me say it S L O W L Y so that MAYBE you would understand. I was regarding to everyday people jerky... NOT people in politics. Can you tell the difference? Apparently not. Can you read english or did someone give you a bad translation? Jesus, where did you come from?

[Ecuajey]

Originally posted by PhiDaWg61
look somewhere else cause I'm not your enemy. Let me say it S L O W L Y so that MAYBE you would understand. I was regarding to everyday people jerky... NOT people in politics. Can you tell the difference? Apparently not. Can you read english or did someone give you a bad translation? Jesus, where did you come from?

PhiDaWg61, compay, yo no sé quién es esa persona, pero yo pienso que esa persona sabe de alguien en este foro. Esa persona parece haber llegado recientemente a este foro, pero sabe ya cómo anunciar los retratos y usar las clases diferentes de "font."...interesante....

[Es_Vedra]

Originally posted by PhiDaWg61
look somewhere else cause I'm not your enemy. Let me say it S L O W L Y so that MAYBE you would understand. I was regarding to everyday people jerky... NOT people in politics. Can you tell the difference? Apparently not. Can you read english or did someone give you a bad translation? Jesus, where did you come from?

No sé por qué me insultaste directamente con una palabrota anglosajona (eso de 'jerky') Solo te hice unas preguntitas simples. Lamento mucho por haberte ofendido. Es que yo no supe que en serio tu no tenías la inteligencia ni la sabiduría básica para contestar esas preguntitas tan simples. 2 + 2 = 4 ¡Ahy Bendito! Solo quise educarte, pero gracias por enseñarme cuanto de caballero eres. Otra cosa mas, si eres tan Puertorriqueño e Independentista por qué no puedes cominicar en español. ¿Por qué tienes que comunicar en ingles? ¿Y eso de adonde vengo? Pues, soy miembro del Revolucionario Antillano Anti-Imperialista Partido Socialista...

Articulo 1 ~ El Revolucionario Antillano Anti-Imperialista Partido Socialista se constituye para lograr con los esfuerzos reunidos de todos los patriotas de buena voluntad la Independencia absoluta y justa de la Isla de Puerto Rico y luchar por los derechos humanos de todos los habitantes de Puerto Rico al igual que los habitantes de nuestros hermanos Dominicanos y Cubanos y en fin liberar nuestras tierras del imperialismo.

PhiDawg: Eres muy poco hombre por haberme hablado como hiciste. Eres simplemente un callejero sin educación. Te pones frustrado porque no puedes contestar unas preguntas simples que una Independentista de verdad debe saber. Tu no tienes "class". Y eso de guerra y pelea que estás hablando, creeme, no sabes lo que es eso ni tienes la inteligencia para debatir conmigo. Me enseñaste eso muy bien con tu forma de comunicar que es muy bruto.





[Edited by Es_Vedra on 26th February 2002 at 16:24]

[PhiDaWg61]

came from individuals such as:

Ismael Rivera
Raphy Leavitt
Larry Harlow
Ray Barretto
Roberto Roena
Bobby Valentin
Eddie Palmieri
Ismael Miranda
Ismael Quintana
Frankie Ruiz - wasted talent
Justo Betancourt
La Sonora Poncena

I can go on... :-) these characters are a little more lively than the ones you mentioned previously. I can go into detail of other individuals that I know of which include family members who were "blacklisted" years ago because of their views. In any case, I dont have to prove my heart to you or anyone just cause you feel your an "independentista de verdad." I suggest you seriously consider getting off the high horse for at least a while cause you facilitate the age old tactic of divide and conquer. Later, my friend> I have some pollo, arroz blanco con habichuelas blancas, ensalada, y tostones to attend to.