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Old 25th February 2002, 19:31
Es_Vedra Es_Vedra is offline
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Re: If your looking for a fight...

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PhiDaWg61, compay, yo no sé quién es esa persona, pero yo pienso que esa persona sabe de alguien en este foro. Esa persona parece haber llegado recientemente a este foro, pero sabe ya cómo anunciar los retratos y usar las clases diferentes de "font."...interesante....
Tienes razon. Ya lo ves. No soy una cualquiera de la calle, soy educada y solo quise que el se diera cuenta de un punto logico. Que un Independentista debe saber su historia, eso y nada mas. Despues el me dijo 'jerky', no estoy segura que quiere decir eso pero voy averiguar, sé que tiene algo que ver con 'jerk', pues no soy un 'jerk', yo soy una mujer, y lamentablemente, este tipo aquí no tiene respeto a las mujeres. ¡Pero que clase caballero!


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Old 25th February 2002, 19:50
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Talking Re: Re: If your looking for a fight...

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Tienes razon. Ya lo ves. No soy una cualquiera de la calle, soy educada y solo quise que el se diera cuenta de un punto logico. Que un Independentista debe saber su historia, eso y nada mas. Despues el me dijo 'jerky', no estoy segura que quiere decir eso pero voy averiguar, sé que tiene algo que ver con 'jerk', pues no soy un 'jerk', yo soy una mujer, y lamentablemente, este tipo aquí no tiene respeto a las mujeres. ¡Pero que clase caballero!
Yo sé, yo sé. No te precupes, yo no quiero problemas con nadie en este foro. Solo, lo que yo quiero, es tener buenas discusiónes con mi gente puertorriqueña. Yo no los defiendo, solo estoy escribiendo lo que veo. Todos los puertorriqueños son mi compatriotas.

Yo puedo ver, que tu eres una mujer independentista, claro que sí. Las mujeres puertorriqueña, espcialamente, las independentistas que son mujeres, tienen algo en ellas, que tu puede ver que ellas son individuales fuertes y hermosas.

Bienvenidas a el foro, hermana.
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Old 25th February 2002, 19:54
Ecuajey Ecuajey is offline
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Thumbs up Re: my Puerto Rican history lessons

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came from individuals such as:

Ismael Rivera
From that man, I recieved the idea for my name. Like Ismaelo always said, ¡Ecuajey!

Man, how I wish he was still alive today. Why did he have to be such a visioso! Such a great singer.
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Old 25th February 2002, 21:06
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Cool Ay bendito!!!

Phida we are aware that many people do not understand
the accumulation of colonialism, colonialism and independence. Camarada Vedra was mentioning the realities
of the colony and this can create many responses. Imagine
to live in your own nation and waving the flag of the nation, to be persecuted, or to wacth your back. The intelligence of Amerikkka is more advanced. The United Stadian does not need to use the same resources as the colony does, eventhought they have. Insulting a camarada
"esta fuera de orden".

I once called the radio station because there was somebody of la FANIA. I told him thanks to them our cultural self-esteem is high. My point is that the foundation of our realities is based on the government, their sacrifices,
and courage. Why did we have the U.S. passport if we did not vote on it? The institutions that conditioned our people or us are a important factor of who we are.
Camarada Vedra Welcome! Vedra- Our evolution can be slow on certain things and fast on others, please understand our
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Old 25th February 2002, 21:31
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I have to agree with Es_vedra in the sense that knowledge of our history, culture and people are very important, because only through knowledge are we able to defend our opinions in a well round manner.

I was similar to Phil when I was younger, in the sense that my identity to Puerto Rico was mainly the music. Many young people start off that way, some of us realize, as I did, that knowledge is power. Thus, the more we acquire the more we are able to defend our people and our views. Recently, I had a similar discussion with my younger daughter. She is a very proud Puerto Rican, (she better be) anyway, she tells me, she knows a lot about our culture etc, through its music, she is perfecting her language skills also, I told her that she would be totally immerse into our culture if she knew our history and politics. It can't hurt, since knowledge is something no one can take away from you.

Much respect and Amor Boricua Siempre!
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Old 25th February 2002, 22:30
PhiDaWg61 PhiDaWg61 is offline
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no argument here

knowledge of our history, culture and people are very important, because only through knowledge are we able to defend our opinions in a well round manner.


No argument whatsoever.


Thats exactly what I am trying to do. But some uppity people here feel they can look down on their noses instead of educating someone. Instead of something intelligent to say, she had insults. What a fallacy! Knowledge has been replaced by insults here in this forum. Now that her feelings were hurt she wants to talk about shes a lady? Puhleese. If any of you have a program that deciphers user code that tracks male or female gender, let me get a copy!

The only dumb question is one that isnt asked. Will I apologize for not being born in PR? NO! Will I apologize for not responding in spanish? NO! Will I apologize for being a neophyte is island politics? NO! As for being a "callejero"... don't make me laugh. Come with a better one...

Once again the question remains:

Why is Maria Lourdes de Santiago such a hot ticket? Will I be answered with insults or what? Or am I wasting my time here at PuertoRico.com?
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Old 25th February 2002, 23:03
Leticia_g Leticia_g is offline
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Phil

I have one article showing how this great lady is capable of being our president. This is one of many. If you need more or would like me to direct you to different sites let me know.

Special Committee on GA/COL/3052

Decolonization 21 June 2001

5th Meeting (AM)

DRAFT RESOLUTION INTRODUCED IN DECOLONIZATION COMMITTEE CALLING ON UNITED STATES


TO EXPEDITE SELF-DETERMINATION PROCESS FOR PUERTO RICO

Amid a barrage of condemnations about the United States bombardment of Vieques, Puerto Rico this morning, a draft resolution introduced by Cuba’s representative for adoption called on the United States Government to expedite a process that would allow the Puerto Rican people to fully exercise their inalienable rights to self determination and independence.

As the Special Committee on Decolonization heard calls from 17 petitioners for the release of alleged political prisoners held by the United States Government, independence and self-determination, and full statehood for Puerto Rico, nearly all speakers rejected President George Bush’s proposal for United States withdrawal from Vieques in 2003, and demanded the immediate and unconditional halting of United States naval exercises in the Territory.

Maria De Lourdes Santiago, on behalf of Partido Nacionalista de Puerto Rico, said that what was being seen once again in Vieques was the crudest expression of the dominion of the United States over Puerto Rico. The United States, ignoring the will of the people of Puerto Rico, had insisted on maintaining its course of action, disregarding the integrity of Puerto Rican soil and the health of the Puerto Rican people. The eyes of the world were placed on the oldest colony in the world, and resolution of the question would require the support of the entire international community.


Martín Koppel, Socialist Workers Party, said the bombing of Vieques, which the United States renewed just days ago, deserved worldwide condemnation. The Bush administration’s announcement that it would end the bombing practices on Vieques two years from now was the latest expression of Washington’s colonial arrogance. The very fact that the United States was announcing such a concession was not because it had seen the light, but because of the refusal of tens of thousands of people in Puerto Rico to give up their struggle.

Juan Antonio Franco-Medina, Nuevo Movimiento Independentista Puertorriqueño, said the United States had overlooked the international will expressed in the first decade of decolonization. The previous colonial general elections in Puerto Rico had also said a great deal about the dissatisfaction of the people with the United States administration.

He cited the poisoning of the environment by corporations, “neo-liberal” policies, people imprisoned because of their resistance, and the imposition of the death penalty, which was in contradiction to the Puerto Rican Constitution. In addition, the people of Vieques had been subjected to many genocidal practices.

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