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Old 24th February 2002, 05:02
PhiDaWg61 PhiDaWg61 is offline
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Seriously, there are too may independent Puerto Ricans here.

We need some dependent Puerto Rican people with computers.

Any disagreements?
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Old 24th February 2002, 05:44
Guaili-Cayniabon Guaili-Cayniabon is offline
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Seriously, there are too may independent Puerto Ricans here.

We need some dependent Puerto Rican people with computers.

Any disagreements?
[i]Saludos PhiDawg61:

Yes. I disagree. I don't think we need statehooders assimilating anymore people with their "sanitized" propaganda here at puertorico.com. Atleast if it is an issue that matters to you at all.

The independent Puerto Ricans that are here aren't as independent as you think. Me personally, I am not to familiar with your posts, but I will say I've heard good arguments and statements made by you at times. Hopefully we may be able to learn more of each other in the future.

Basically, you have to remember as well though that within the Independence movements there are the divisions as well. After all that was the way the CIA (COINTELPRO) worked it all out and wanted it to be, to divide the movement and prevent unity. Anyway, I am basically non-bias although certain ideals another may have may cause them to clash with mine although we primarily want the same thing for Puerto Rico, Indepdence. It's just we have all our own thoughts towards the mentality that should be used to think of the ways to achieve it. I am very involved in the movement. Some here at puertorico.com may not find or be very fond of my blend of idealism and political thoughts and feelings although they are Independentista just like I. I'll admit that in the field many see things in me too, but it goes both ways, I see things too about them. Thing is I'm a real complex blend of a pure to the Pro-Independentista "Patria o Muerte" slash Nacionalist slash Socialist slash half liberal half conservitive, it depends on the issue at hand and read this next one carefully Pro-Anti-Imperialist. I guess you should know that from the bulk of my posts aimed at the destruction of Imperialism which I throw statehood in the same boat with and sink it to the bottom of the atlantic. That's me straight up nothing to hide. You'll find here that in the history of puertorico.com there's been people who have proclaimed themselves as Independentistas and then have gone and questioned things causing controversy in contra against the ideals of the movement, and then have later turned out to be Populares. That's something I feel someone should be upfront about and not try to pass themselves off as a "true-blue" Independentista when they're not.

The people here I will claim as allys are:
1. Camano
2. Suki
3. Conciencia
4. Yautiawoman (I think there's views I project and ideals that may make you feel towards me in a certain way sometimes. I know you've been in the movement for a long time but I don't know, since back in the day until now, siempre me han tirado la vaina de "el es fuerte, demasiao', es de la gente de antes. Forgive me if I can't help thinking the way I do. I have no disagreements with you.)
5. L_Machetero (You haven't posted in I don't know how long, everything is fine just don't push that "ejercito" stuff with me and everything will be cool)

Cayuka ~ Tu me caes bien chevere. Sigue que esta la verde.


Well PhiDawg, basically why there's no Estadistas is because I destroyed them all And any new ones that come, the same fate awaits them

See you in a few days. I'm going on a trip to the Dominican Republic. I'll get back to you as soon as I can and respond to any response you may leave me here.

What are your ideals by the way? Where do you stand politically? I know you're an Independentista, but that's vague, I mean go into more depth.


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Old 24th February 2002, 05:53
Guaili-Cayniabon Guaili-Cayniabon is offline
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P.S. Phidawg


[i]Has it occured to you the phsycology behind to what you are suggesting? What you're stating is kind of like after having your house bombed and fumagated and kill all the cocaroaches that there might be, then later go on and want there to be cocaroaches back in your house.

I don't know about you, but I hate cocaroaches and I hate to see them in my presence what so ever. You won't see me missing roaches, rats, and snakes like the statehooders are anytime. NO THANKS

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Old 24th February 2002, 17:59
Ecuajey Ecuajey is offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by PhiDaWg61
Seriously, there are too may independent Puerto Ricans here.

We need some dependent Puerto Rican people with computers.

Any disagreements?
I have to disagree, as well. We need as much independentistas as we could get. Still, we could use some estadistas, and populares, to spark discussions and different views in this forum. Remember, politics aside, we are all Puerto Rican. Well, I hope so. jajaja

I know, that, all I am looking for is some great discussions with my fellow Boricuas, y no estoy buscando ningún problema con nadie. I have read some of what has gone down here, especially between estadistas and independentistas, independentistas and independentistas, alike. That is not what I am looking for, jajaja.
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Old 24th February 2002, 18:11
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Phil

With all due respect, the only reason I could see the need for statehooders is to have a good discussion and maybe enlighten them in the right direction. If not for those reasons, I really can't see the validity in it. It is always good to see others points of view, compare them and know where we stand. It is also good to know our enemies because only by knowing them, can we be prepared for their attack.

Much respect!

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Old 24th February 2002, 18:22
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Leticia_g, you have given an excellent reply. I agree, completely.
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Old 25th February 2002, 07:30
PhiDaWg61 PhiDaWg61 is offline
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my sentiments exactly

sorry I wasn't clear but my comments were to get several responses. You have hit the nail on the head when you stated that good discussion and enlightenment is needed.

I have had many discussions with many PR's regarding politics and most (young and old) think statehood is best without thinking. I must admit when I was in high school, I thought the same way. That was years ago. Anyways, hope to hear from you soon.
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