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  • MeXiCHiCo
    started a topic boricua bloodline...

    boricua bloodline...

    what blood are most puerto ricans consisting of?? my puerto rican friends here in l.a. are mainly light complected to tanned...most say they are mestizzos (spanish and indigenous) or just say they are puerto rican not knowing what blood they have.....also, i havent really seen an afro-boricua in face to face...ive only seen them on tv such as tito trinidad and roberto clemente.....but what are u gente mostly mixed with??

  • dhernandez
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    The results have nothing to do with people's opinion. It's scientific data. Yes there are many Boricua's who Identify as Black. According to Census 2010 results over 400,000as Black. 35,000 identified as Native American, mainly Taino. Now as a Puerto Rican myself, I refrain for speaking about "most Boricuas" because out of 4 million boricuas on the island and another 4 million on the mainland it would be arrogant of anyone to say they know most of our people. The same can be said about any other large group of human beings.

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  • LEVITTOWN_GELE
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    hey

    I also found out that their is hardley puerto ricans in puerto rico..most of them where told about other places and jobs and they seemed to move out but normaly puerto rico is like cuba and the dominican republic and even though most of us moved out their is still a strong pressence of us on the island...but puerto rico is more mixed amerindian and mulatto with its pressence of immigrants..

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  • LEVITTOWN_GELE
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    hey

    Im from puerto rico and im mulatto tan skinned and all the kids i was brought up with where black in my neighborhood and when i say all of them i say all of them puerto rico ,cuba and the dominican republic are brother lands i only had one or two light skin friends and they are mulatto you can see it in their eyes and the facial features...most of the black puerto ricans are Igbo,Akan,Mende,Wolof,Mandingo,Yoruba (or Lucumi),others i even see wolof in the majority of the puerto rican men i grew up around...

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  • Radrook
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    The one drop makes you black rule isn't just applied to Puerto Ricans my friends. That one-drop rule is applied to all Latin Americans because all Latin Americans are suspected of having one drop somewhere in their lineage. In short, African Americans and Anglo Americans consider all Latinos black regardless of appearances and will view their claim to whiteness as "trying to pass".

    Cameron Diaz? Trying to pass. Rita Hayworth? Trying to pass. Rachel welch? Trying to Pass. Jose Ferrer? Trying to pass. Xuuxa? Trying to pass. Rickey Martin? Trying to pass. Shakira? Trying to pass. In contrast most people on this earth don't go by that idiotic self-serving one-drop rule and if you look white you are considered white.

    Cubans of course don't let anyone mess with their culture. But Puerto Ricans by nature are a self-deprecating lot whose tendencies are to cut their own cultural throat at every opportunity they get. Therefore the reason for their docile, compliance when others dictate how they should view themselves regardless of what their physical appearances tell them to the contrary.

    BTW

    The funny thing about this one-drop rule is the Anglo American reluctance to apply it to themselves. After all, the United States European Southern population mixed freely with Africans before, during and after slavery. This mostly happened on plantations where the Anglo master would spread his genes and leave his offspring in slavery. These lighter- skinned blacks when freed proceeded to make their way into the general Anglo populations in order to pass as white. There they freely married and spread their genetics. So when an American Anglo-looking person tells me he's white, I truly wonder whether that person has researched his own lineage sufficiently to guarantee that the one drop rule he cherishes so much doesn't apply to him. In fact, thousands of these so called Anglo whites are fully aware of their African heritage but cunningly ignore it. In short, the very ones haughtily applying it to Latinos don't apply it to themselves and hey might be and often are even more mixed with Africans than the Latinos they are classifying.
    Last edited by Radrook; 25th January 2011, 09:03.

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  • clip314
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    Endagando

    Originally posted by dhernandez View Post
    Well it's 2010 and the DNA studies on the Boricua population are almost complete. Over 62% of the population has Native American DNA. Of that only 5% is from outside tribes. The rest are from the island's original inhabitants. For the most part most boricuas are at least tri-racial with the dominant portion being European and some African and Taino averaging around 1/4 to 1/16 more or less. According to most DNA studies done only 5% are pure White and only 2% are pure African. only 5% is bi-racial meaning only White and Black and only 5% are Mestizo meaning only Native and White.
    These results also depend on what people have been led to believe for generations. It isn't easy to change long held views, and less so if racial. No one on the island truly believes we have a large portion of Taíno blood, much less a lot of Black blood either.

    Most Puerto Ricans living on the island, believe it or not, classify themselves as BLANCO. However this should not be confused with what Gringo's call WHITE.

    On the other hand a huge portion of those residing on the mainland either, classify themselves as Black or, Mulatto, but hardly ever White. Only those raised on the island are brave enough to call themselves White in front of Gringos, who are always always polite and never question them. To many Gringo's our BLANCO is more like a LOOKS WHITE than actually a REAL WHITE.

    Because Puerto Ricans living on the island are to a certain extent racists, most would never accept being called NEGRO either, maybe TRIGUEÑO, but never NEGRO! We hardly use the word MULATTO like they do in Cuba.

    But I guess people identify themselves as they see fit. I've never seen Dominicans being criticized because they prefer to call themselves INDIOS instead of Mulattos or NEGROS. To them NEGROS are those from Haiti, go figure.

    The propensity to identify ourselves as Black on the mainland comes from adopting Gringo race values, mainly those re-configured by our proximity to living close to African Americans. Strangely this never happened to Cubans who identified themselves as they saw fit, "Y al que no le gustara que se mordiera la lengua". Therefore Celia Cruz was Mulata, Olga Guillot, dudosa, and Marco Rubio , despite Chuck Todd of MSNBC calling him non-white, he's Blanco to himself.

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  • dhernandez
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    Time Told the Facts

    Well it's 2010 and the DNA studies on the Boricua population are almost complete. Over 62% of the population has Native American DNA. Of that only 5% is from outside tribes. The rest are from the island's original inhabitants. For the most part most boricuas are at least tri-racial with the dominant portion being European and some African and Taino averaging around 1/4 to 1/16 more or less. According to most DNA studies done only 5% are pure White and only 2% are pure African. only 5% is bi-racial meaning only White and Black and only 5% are Mestizo meaning only Native and White.

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  • JaneMas
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    Some african? Lot's of African, lots of Indian and just as many Criollos.

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  • historiador
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    blood?

    we are mainly european in origin, with some african mixed in with tinges of indigenous taino and chinese, not to mention we also have a strong arab descent, customs, tastes way of thinking etc... we get the arab from the spanish moriscos, who were the typical spanish crew that came to the americas in the period of discovery and conquest.
    no there are no tainos in p.rico unless the are starting to be cloned, but i doubt that!, but none the less we have the genes.
    in the states there are more dark colored p.ricans than in p.r., but don`t get me wrong i am not saying that there are no dark p.ricans in p.r. there are but you see the mix more in the states than in the island.

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  • historiador
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    bloodline

    we are in mayority european, and african with some genes from the indigenous tainos which died out or moved out to other islands, during the discovery period.
    NO there are no tainos , yes there are groups that are hoping to resurrect a people that no longer exist, by importing ideas from indigenous groups of venezuela, brazil, colombia.
    but just because they look like what we imagine does not make it so.
    we also have in our genetic make up and in our culture arab traditions, specifically from the spanish moriscos, which of course comprised the mayority of the crews that were coming in during the spanish discovery and conquista period.
    whether p.ricans are white in complexion yes, the mayority.
    you have more p. rican mestizos and mulatos in the states.
    other groups that added a bit to ours are of course french, british, german, danish, and portuguese. oh yess almost forgot the chinese, yes chinese, they were responsible for almost all the main roads in p.rico and cuba.
    we have out of many become one but a hispanic one, though we may have u.s. citizenship ask anyone in p.r. what they are first and foremost and they will say puertoriquenos no americanos.
    hope this might have answered any doubts.

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  • Independencia_PR
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    Originally posted by RicanYankee View Post
    just 2 add my 3 chavitos... i'm, Spanish, Irish, French, Taino, Africano, y sabe dios que mas.... i think Holanda, Inglaterra, n a lot more came n tried 2 take our Island... in da process, they left their DNA floating around... so as some1 sez B4... we B the creame of da Planet.... u name it... we gotz it... n carry it around very proudly... Boricua de corazon... n by da way... WE R FREE!!!! Remember our Cuban brothers... n don't fall in that trap... they were offered freedom too n see wut gotz them... i'm da alpha male.....PAZ....
    What do u mean by offered freedom? Elaborate.

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  • 1q2w
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    Originally posted by ;100158
    According to the U.S.Census,and CIA factbook Puerto Rico's
    population breakdown is as follows:

    White of Spanish decent: 80.5%,Black 8%,Amerindian 0.4%
    Asian 0.2%,Mixed and other 10.9%.
    Incorrect data.

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  • RicanYankee
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    Gracias s3xy.....

    just 2 add my 3 chavitos... i'm, Spanish, Irish, French, Taino, Africano, y sabe dios que mas.... i think Holanda, Inglaterra, n a lot more came n tried 2 take our Island... in da process, they left their DNA floating around... so as some1 sez B4... we B the creame of da Planet.... u name it... we gotz it... n carry it around very proudly... Boricua de corazon... n by da way... WE R FREE!!!! Remember our Cuban brothers... n don't fall in that trap... they were offered freedom too n see wut gotz them... i'm da alpha male.....PAZ....

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  • s3xy
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    No one is really "pure" saying everyone is mixed is obvious


    the Tainos were "wipeout", well, not really, cause they're in our sangre, even if you look moreno or blanquito, that what makes our people look different, and better looking than most, we have that special flavor that distants us from other people, our "blacks" "triracials" or our "whites" are far good looking, its like an own distant race.

    Anyway, if you want to know what Puerto Ricans look like, check out this thread

    http://www.virtualboricua.org/boards/viewtopic.php?t=49





    ^ You can't get more diverse and unified like that.

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  • RepublicadePR
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    Originally posted by Danny312
    I just wana know why is there such a big Racism problem in our Puerto Rico when over here in the states were just glad 2 know that there r other puerto ricans here we don't care if there dark or light skinded.(who ever can answer this question) why don't Boricuas and Mexicans get along, i stay over here in Humboldt Park chicago and the puerto ricans over were i stay at got it in for the mexicans. i'm puerto rican when i was yunger i had mexican friends but i lived in another naborhood but when i hit 14 we moved 2 Humboldt Park my first High school was Roberto Clemente when i got in the school i made alot of friends all of them were puerto rican they were always talking about how much they hate mexican's y eso seme pego know i started hatting mexicans for no reson (who ever can answer my question why do we have so much hate against Mexicans).

    Existen los que son acomplejados y creen que si no son aglosajones y blanquitos, los norteamericanos no nos van a querer y nos van a abandonar.

    Mi pana, esa es una realidad que hay que bregar, lamentablemente. Ese complejo de inferioridad que existe en mi hermosa archipélago se manifiesta en distintas maneras, pero yo soy de los que lucha para educar a mi puebo en cualquier foro, de cualquier manera que se me haga posible. El rascismo en Puerto Rico, sin embargo no es de la misma intensidad y forma que existe en los Estados Unidos, y en otras naciones pues la inmensa mayoría reconoce su herencia y acepta su diversidad.

    Sobre le odio hacia los Mejicanos, en verdad, eso no lo he visto, y ni lo he presentido, tal vez es algo que se ve en Los Angeles, en verdad no se. La única queja que si he escuchado es que UNIVISION ha reemplazado a los actores Boricuas del patio para importar programas enlatados de Méjico y otros países y han eliminado la inmensa de mayoría de producción local por que dicen que el acento Boricua no es "neutral" pero el de ellos sí.

    Aparte de eso, nosotros no tenemos nadad personal en contra de los Mejicanos, de paso, aquí les fascina la música de Vicente Fernandez, Ricardo Montero, Pandora, y muchos otros artistas Mejicanos.

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