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  • Why are Conservatives such WarMongers?

    People who believe violence and bloodshed are the solution such as: terrorists, military types aka Tim McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Sniperman...all have ex military background from the gulf war and or war/military training backgrounds. Once they are trained and expected to kill and see destruction of human life as "just a duty" they disconnect from their conscience and must be committed to the killing path to justify the truly horrific act of terminating a person or people's lives. With the Al Qaeda it is dehumanizing the Christian infidels and the fanaticism of fundamentalism. For the McVeigh/sniperman types it is watching arab heads explode in their crosshairs and finding power and satisfaction in that plus being brainwashed into thinking violence is not only normal conflict resolution but the most violent should be victorious and rewarded. Might is Right mentality. The USA govt and military believe so. And the most conservative Americans believe this is justified.

    When war is a good thing to have to stimulate economic growth Dubya style then death, gore and blood become acceptable ways of having economies in the first world prosper and "recuperate", then we are no better as human beings than the bloody Ceasars of Roman times.

    Suki.

  • #2
    Of course, communists and stalinists and marxists and socialists and nazis and other assorted varieties of left wingers NEVER EVER EVER use violence, right? They NEVER start wars, or use the military to enforce their twisted evil ideologies on others,right? They NEVER killed MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people, right? Its always those darn conservatives.






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    • #3
      I agree with Oppressor on this one. It is not only the right-wing mongers. Extremism in all its forms, whether racial, political or religious relies on violence. The very definition of extremism puts it on the fringes of common belief and narrows the number of believers to the point that only coersion by violent means seems the only viable tool to gain publicity or effect change. Often limited resources and attrition gives a sense of urgency to their cause. Patience is not usually an extremist trait and compromise is never an option, except as a delay tactic for further violent activity.

      Josť

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      • #4
        OPP OPP needs correction.....

        [QUOTE]Originally posted by oppressed_oppressor
        [B]Of course, communists and stalinists and marxists and socialists and nazis and other assorted varieties of left wingers NEVER EVER EVER use violence, right? They NEVER start wars, or use the military to enforce their twisted evil ideologies on others,right? They NEVER killed MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people, right? Its always those darn conservatives.
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        Opp_Opp, you don't seem to know the left from the right. How can you not know that the Nazis were extreme right wingers, even to the right of the Rockefellers, Mellons, and other assorted full-blown capitalists in America and in Germany? Hitler was funded by the Capitalist financiers of Germany. And by the way, what great wars like the Axis of Germany, Italy, and the empire of Japan, the true axis of evil in World War II, did the leftists ever start?

        Don't you know that to use violence as an act of self-preservation, as the Marxists did in World War II, Korea, and Vietnam, is a justifiable natural act as well as an ethical duty?

        HACIA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE BORICUAS,
        Soy Puertorrique/no y Punto.
        EddieR






        E.1: TWO STEPS FORWARD, ONE STEP BACK - V.I. Lenin

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        • #5
          "Opp_Opp, you don't seem to know the left from the right. How can you not know that the Nazis were extreme right wingers,"


          I was waiting for that. You've obviously swallowed the left wing revisionism that plagues our history. Nazis were (and are) National Socialists. The term NAZI stands for National Socialist Workers Party. They may have been to the right of communism, but they are NOT right wing. When you read first hand accounts of the attrocities in Nazi Germany, you will clearly see that the Nazis were against conservatives as well as Christians and Jews. In the TRUE political spectrum, which is measured in terms of MOST government control to LEAST government control, you will find that Communists, Socialists, Nazis, are all about government dominance, and to the right, those who are for less government control, Conservatives, free market capitalists, libertarians, and believe it or not, the TRUE far-right wingers are ANARCHISTS, which believe in NO government control.



          "Don't you know that to use violence as an act of self-preservation, as the Marxists did in World War II, Korea, and Vietnam, is a justifiable natural act as well as an ethical duty? "

          Yes, you are absolutely right. Violence as an act of self-preservation is an ethical duty. Of course, that has NOTHING to do with the MILLIONS of innocents MURDERED by communism, marxism, naziism, socialism and other LEFTIST ideologies. It does however apply to OUR situation today, and the need to destroy the terrorists and their sponsors.
          I'm glad you agree that the US has an ethical, moral duty to remove Saddam Hussein (D-Iraq) and to kill off every last al-qaeda pig, and that it is a justifiable natural act.


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          • #6
            Brilliant LOGIC and knowledge OP-OP!

            [i]KUDOS to you !!!!!!

            And as Bach used to write: S.D.G. !!!!!!!

            Click here: [b]the MEANING of S.D.G.[b]

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            • #7
              Ethics

              Ethics is the issue.

              Capitalism is a right-wing ideology.
              Hitler supported capitalism.
              Socialist and communist were killed by the Nazi Party.
              Socialism and communism is a left-wing ideology.
              Therefore
              Hitler was a right-wing who killed left-wing socialist and communist.

              I think we all agree that killing is good. But when we justify it we have diffrent reasons. Uncle Tom is telling us is good to kill Iraquis and some new guy is telling us
              due that the United States is rich war is ok.
              Now all capitalist agree on the war?
              If The United States was a left-wing nation we would have conservatives arguing for the oil in the name for the proletariat and the liberals arguing for a respectful treaty for oil. There are individuals who are against any war, they can be right-wing or left-wing or moderates.

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              • #8
                Camano


                Naziism and Hitler may have been to the right of communism, but they were nowhere near being "right-wingers". They were leftists killing those who were also further left than they were. Hitler was a socialist. Naziism is a form of socialism. Therefore, you and Hitler are on the same side of the political spectrum. You must be so proud.

                Hitler did not support capitalism. Hitler supported government control of private industry. You know, like Democrats, only he was more honest about it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by oppressed_oppressor
                  Camano


                  Naziism and Hitler may have been to the right of communism, but they were nowhere near being "right-wingers". They were leftists killing those who were also further left than they were. Hitler was a socialist. Naziism is a form of socialism. Therefore, you and Hitler are on the same side of the political spectrum. You must be so proud.

                  Hitler did not support capitalism. Hitler supported government control of private industry. You know, like Democrats, only he was more honest about it.
                  Opp Opp is completely out in pluto somewhere. Fascists are extreme right wingers and have more in common with Opp Opps views than anyone else. LOL.

                  I think war and killing is wrong regardless of the justifications. One may say defense of one's family and from aggressors is justified. But I do not recall in history many times in history where people attack out of the blue some nation or nations just because they like death and destruction. Usually it is some ambition: whether expansion, empire, control of resources, markets or geo political military control. It has little to do with plain defending peace and essential liberty. And all to do with a small elite groups control of something and retention of something. And the cannon fodder are the expendable....such as Puerto Ricans like OPP OPP. Opp Opp should join the Marines and be the first off the ship, he believes in revenge and defense of USA interests so strongly. Even though he is from an ethnic group that the USA gov't does not believe is capable of self government without Big Brother watching every move and if you reside on the island you can not affect big Brothers decisions. He is the biggest patsy in the world. And a willing blind man who is being lied to and manipulated. The essence of the fool. But I think he is a sincere fool and even though he is mean and small minded and just plain antipatico. I hope his dreams of riches and success and rubbing elbows with the top of whoever and wherever he wants to go is realized. Because if he does not become that big success he has created in his own mind everyone else is going to suffer the consequences. LOL. And having to be subject to his tyrannical tirades is a little difficult even for the most tolerant of homo sapiens. Lol. Take it easy.

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                  • #10
                    "Opp Opp is completely out in pluto somewhere. Fascists are extreme right wingers and have more in common with Opp Opps views than anyone else. LOL"


                    Greetings from Pluto.

                    Sorry Sucki, but as usual, you are wrong. Fascism, which derives it's power from total government control, is by its very nature leftist. You can play with words and twist reality all you want (that's not only common with lefties, but absolutely necessary in order to believe what they believe) but you cannot change the fact that the NAZIS were (and are) Socialists, and that their "fascism" is absolutely leftist.Fascism requires absolute government power.Right wing political ideology is anti total government control, so by its very nature CANNOT be fascist. Like I said before, NAZIs may have been to the right of communists, but they were nowhere near right wing. You can continue to believe your socialist fairy tales, I'll stick with reality.




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                    • #11
                      About Private Industry and Fascism..not socialism

                      Originally posted by oppressed_oppressor
                      Camano


                      Naziism and Hitler may have been to the right of communism, but they were nowhere near being "right-wingers". They were leftists killing those who were also further left than they were. Hitler was a socialist. Naziism is a form of socialism. Therefore, you and Hitler are on the same side of the political spectrum. You must be so proud.

                      Hitler did not support capitalism. Hitler supported government control of private industry. You know, like Democrats, only he was more honest about it.
                      Opp_Opp, you are wrong about Hitler supporting government control of private industry. The Nazi program only supported Heavy Industry with governmental oversight, such as over the Krupp Steel Industry and the Communications Industries that could be used for mounting a war effort of world conquest.

                      The private industries like clothing and furniture stores, etc., and right down to the German mom and papa stores were never put under centralized government control, not even after the war of conquest began. In fact, since most of the Germans had to deal with the grocery stores and the other private sector stores that I mentioned, they were never disturbed by the pressures of the ongoing war. In fact, things were so peaceful and harmonious on that level that many Germans were ignorant of the pressures of the war of conquest going on, and didn't even know about the concentration camps that were operated by the S.S..

                      Such benighted Germans got the reputation of being called the "good Germans" even by the Nazi themselves.

                      HACIA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE BORICUAS,
                      Soy Puertorrique/no y Punto.
                      EddieR
                      E.1: TWO STEPS FORWARD, ONE STEP BACK - V.I. Lenin

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                      • #12
                        So we agree, NAZIs are extreme left wingers. Funny thing is, as bad as the NAZIs are are, Suki and her socialist cronies are EVEN FARTHER LEFT. How does it feel to be more extremist than Adolph Hitler, Suki?

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                        • #13
                          Deep Space

                          Acoording to OPP nationalization is a left-wing issue. That is not nessesary true. It depends what purposes the nationalization is for.
                          We know during the cold war, anything lefty would be terminated by "Uncle Sam". Balaguer former president of the DR and a strong ally of The US did not sale the State industries. That made him a communist? Balaguer
                          was put as president to avoid Juan Bosch a 'communist' to come to power! I invite OPP to study this case.

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