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    Jesus 1

    Jesus1, your name is Jesus, theefore, isn't it an honor to have this name. Now I suggest you imitate Jesus, Our God, and just love yourself and everyone else. Life will be more fun and proper that wasy. Good Day!

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    • #17
      From discoverychannel.com

      Jesus Remade in New Documentary
      By Rossella Lorenzi, Discovery News

      A Computer-Generated Jesus

      April 13, 2001 Born in his father's home in Bethlehem among his parents' extended family, Jesus was a dark skinned, curly-haired man who carried out his messianic campaign in a strikingly subversive way, according to a new documentary.

      Among other shocking theories, he worked with Judas to provoke his own arrest and was crucified on a cross not made of two separate wooden boards, but one, nailed to the trunk of an olive tree.

      New scientific investigations and theories challenge common beliefs about Jesus' life and death in Jesus: The Complete Story, a landmark Discovery Channel/BBC co-production that aired on The Discovery Channel.

      The computer-generated image of what Christ might have looked like that was created for the program a swarthy, coarse, vacant-eyed, short-haired man has dismayed believers and non-believers since it was released at the end of March.

      "We in the West have for about 2000 years been wrongly influenced by an Aryan Jesus, who looks like us, even blue-eyed and blond-haired. Nothing is more unfaithful to Jesus," said James Charlesworth, professor of New Testament languages at Princeton Theological Seminary, one of the experts consulted in the documentary.

      Created with a 2,000-year-old Jewish skull, ancient religious images and documents, advanced software and the latest forensic techniques, the image is considered the departure point for the closest possible likeness of the historical Jesus: a 1st-century Jewish man who would have lived in the harsh conditions of the time.

      "Jesus certainly looked far more like that person than me and other males who live in the West," said Charlesworth.

      Blending computer technology and scholarly research, the documentary recreates the Palestine where Jesus would have walked the Temple in Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Nazareth and other locations as they existed in the 1st century.

      Standard views and alternative hypotheses explore the life of a carpenter who threatened the Jewish priestly establishment by launching a religion now embraced by 2 billion people.

      "Jesus did have a number of disagreements with the extremists of Judaism at the time. The path he charts is one of a new and more open understanding of the laws of Jewish life," said Eric Meyers, professor of Judaic studies at Duke University, another consulting scholar.

      Insights of historians, scientists and medical experts into the days leading up to Jesus execution raise the most controversial theories.

      They suggest that Judas and Jesus might have colluded; they also provide evidence from pathologists that people can actually sweat blood when under extreme stress, like the Bible says Jesus did in the Garden of Gethsemene.

      From challenging the widely accepted image of a Jesus born in a stable to the highly explosive theory about the use of the ancient anesthetic mandrake for the resurrection, the documentary produces an image of Christ far removed from centuries of convention.

      "We've respected people's beliefs and tried not to offend anyone, but I'm sure they will find food for thought," said presenter Jeremy Bowen.

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      • #18
        Ah, here we are Jesus Bashing!

        [QUOTE]Originally posted by ElMastero
        [B]From discoverychannel.com

        Jesus Remade in New Documentary
        By Rossella Lorenzi, Discovery News

        A Computer-Generated Jesus

        April 13, 2001 Born in his father's home in Bethlehem among his parents' extended family, Jesus was a dark skinned, curly-haired man who carried out his messianic campaign in a strikingly subversive way, according to a new documentary.

        Among other shocking theories, he worked with Judas to provoke his own arrest and was crucified on a cross not made of two separate wooden boards, but one, nailed to the trunk of an olive tree.

        New scientific investigations and theories challenge common beliefs about Jesus' life and death in Jesus: The Complete Story, a landmark Discovery Channel/BBC co-production that aired on The Discovery Channel.

        The computer-generated image of what Christ might have looked like that was created for the program a swarthy, coarse, vacant-eyed, short-haired man has dismayed believers and non-believers since it was released at the end of March.

        "We in the West have for about 2000 years been wrongly influenced by an Aryan Jesus, who looks like us, even blue-eyed and blond-haired. Nothing is more unfaithful to Jesus," said James Charlesworth, professor of New Testament languages at Princeton Theological Seminary, one of the experts consulted in the documentary.

        Created with a 2,000-year-old Jewish skull, ancient religious images and documents, advanced software and the latest forensic techniques, the image is considered the departure point for the closest possible likeness of the historical Jesus: a 1st-century Jewish man who would have lived in the harsh conditions of the time.

        "Jesus certainly looked far more like that person than me and other males who live in the West," said Charlesworth.

        Blending computer technology and scholarly research, the documentary recreates the Palestine where Jesus would have walked the Temple in Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Nazareth and other locations as they existed in the 1st century.

        Standard views and alternative hypotheses explore the life of a carpenter who threatened the Jewish priestly establishment by launching a religion now embraced by 2 billion people.

        "Jesus did have a number of disagreements with the extremists of Judaism at the time. The path he charts is one of a new and more open understanding of the laws of Jewish life," said Eric Meyers, professor of Judaic studies at Duke University, another consulting scholar.

        Insights of historians, scientists and medical experts into the days leading up to Jesus execution raise the most controversial theories.

        They suggest that Judas and Jesus might have colluded; they also provide evidence from pathologists that people can actually sweat blood when under extreme stress, like the Bible says Jesus did in the Garden of Gethsemene.

        From challenging the widely accepted image of a Jesus born in a stable to the highly explosive theory about the use of the ancient anesthetic mandrake for the resurrection, the documentary produces an image of Christ far removed from centuries of convention.

        "We've respected people's beliefs and tried not to offend anyone, but I'm sure they will find food for thought," said presenter Jeremy Bowen.
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        I like the computer generated photograph and it makes a lot
        of sense to me. I think he probably did look like that!

        But here is the real crux of the problem.

        People cannot deal with the subject of Jesus rationaly.

        I think that those who wrote about Christ had some very nice and interesting things to day about El Hijo del Hombre.

        So lets take some of those Christian lessons and see how we are doing in today's Christian society in the good old USA.

        You will remember that Christ said: "Resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite theee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." So, why did everybody get upset with 9/11/01?, After all the US did more than 3,000 people in on 9/11/73 in Chile and what did the Chileans do? As good socialists they did what their President told them to do: Nothing. They turned their left cheeck and got Milton Friedman!

        Now the idea of turning the other cheek was not an original idea of Christ. It was used by Lao-tse and Buddha some 500 to 600 years before Christ. I have no doubt that Tony Blair for instance, is a most sincere Christian, and somewhat of a socialist, but I should not dare to advise any of you to go and smite him on one cheek. I think you might find that he thinks this text in the Bible was intended in a figurative sense.

        Then there are more points to be made: Christ said "Judge not lest ye be judged." I do not think that would be very popular with todays Supreme Court, considering all their stupid decisions, especially the elections that put this Prez in power.

        Now many times these judges have made terrible decisions but even if they are earnest Christians, none of them would ever admit that they are acting contrary to Christian principles in what they do!

        What about "Give to him that asketh of thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away!"

        Think about the last election, now I do not want to talk about politics all the time but, on the question of how many people were turned away from the ballot box in Florida, and that the Liberals (dems) and Conservatives (repukes) of this country are composed of people who do not agree with the teaching of Christ. Because they certainly did very emphatically turn away on that occasion and ignored the plea of black voters and little old ladies, who needed help with voting; when people were turned from voting, nobody did anything about it, is it gonna be different this time?

        And if we apply the rule of give to him that asketh and give what you have that people wanna borrow, and do not turn away, then, my friend, they are gonna say, Jesus was a Communist!

        Then there is a not very popular maxim of Christ which says:

        "If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that which thou hast, and give to the poor." Again, it is an excellent maxim but they are gonna say you are a communist.

        But if you are a real Christian, my friend, why not practice
        what Christ preached?

        On the other hand, there are some real defects on Christ's
        teachings according to the gospels.

        We have to be concerned about the Christ that appears in the Gospels, that is the only Christ we really know, the Bible Christ.

        The first real mistake one finds in the Bible as redacted in the Gospels is that Christ thought that His second coming would occur in clouds of glory before the death of all the oeple who were then living at that time. To this day, every generation of new (Neo-Christians) thinks He will get here in a cloud of glory and it will be during their life time, at least 17% of all US citizens believe this!

        I it based on scripture such as "There are some standing here which shall not taste death till the Son of Man comes into His kingdom"; and there are a lot of places where it is quite clear that He believed that His second coming would happend during the lifetime of many then living. That was also the basis for many of his moral teaching. "Take no thought for the morrow" (una recomendacion para vivir como muchos en el Carpe Diem). He said you should forget about ordinary mundane affairs since the second coming was imminent. Don't pay the rent, the car, forget about laundry and bills, and live giving away everything you have, just run around and preach about the second coming of Jesus.

        And think about all those preachers who frighten their congregations to death talking about the second coming. Some people do not see the contradiction with these preachers when after taking all the money from their feligreses, they go and take out a 30 year mortgage, and plant fruit trees in their gardens.

        But the most serious defect in Jesus was his moral character, why? Because he believed in hell. Any person who is really profoundly humane cannot believe in hell or
        everlasting punishment for any kind of sin.

        Mostly Christ was very angry at people who did not like his preaching. But what bothered me the most when I was a little girl was the talk in the Pentecostal Church about the sin against the Holy Ghost. There was no salvation for you if you even doubted the Holy Ghost. (Thomas doubted Jesus).

        "Hosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven him neither in this World nor in the world to come." It sure made my life miserable trying to figure out what all that Holy rolling and that Holy Ghost was all about. I do not think a religious person with any degree of kindness would have put such fears and terror of that sort into this world, so I think they, the disciples made it all up! If Christ existed, he would have been a kinder, gentler man. And He would have left more than the sign of the fish on the sand.

        Yautia






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