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  • Puerto Rico y Mejico: dos paises consumidos por el narcotrafico

    El problema de Mexico es el mismo de Puerto Rico pero a la tercera o cuarta potencia; el dinero que genera la actividad del narcotrafico. Sale droga y entran armas. Toda la rama judicial, los bancos, la legislatura, la policia, corruptos por el lavado de dinero. La economia se mantiene a flote por las ayudas y el dinero de esta actividad de la economia "subterranea". Mientras exista una demanda insaciable de estupefacientes (lease en los Estados Unidos mayormente), la actividad policial no tendra ningun efecto sobre este problema. Ya los EU van por cada dos millones de ciudadanos encerrados en instituciones penales, la mayoria por casos de drogas y la actividad criminal sigue en aumento. La "Guerra" contra las drogas ha consumido quintillones de dolares sin mostrar progreso en la "lucha". Hay que educar, y hacer lo mismo que se hizo con el consumo del tabaco, legalizarlo y controlarlo. El consumo de artuclos derivados del tabaco ha disminuido en casi todas las categorias al igual que se ha visto una baja en el cancer asociado con este veneno. Parte de la solucion es demandar y obtener dinero de las companias que se lucran del vicio para pagar por los tratamientos y solventar los programas de educacion anti-drogas. El unico grupo que ha visto un aumento en el consumo del tabaco son las mujeres y junto con esto, un aumento en la incidencia de cancer en las mujeres. El nuevo Superintendente de la policia dice que el no llego a esa posicion vendiendo Limbers sino desarticulando bandas criminales. O, yeah, sure. Por lo que se ve, seguira vendiendo limbers.


  • #2
    mexico sit on it

    Puerto rico will never be mexico nor will we ever accept communism.mexico politics should stay out of puerto rico.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by cmbigfoot@live. View Post
      Puerto rico will never be mexico nor will we ever accept communism.mexico politics should stay out of puerto rico.
      My suggestion to you and your comments about Puerto Rico.First of all this is the United Staes not Mexico and you should learn to write in english and read english.As far as mexico haveing the same problems,let me tell you that that is the most dumpest statement I have ever heard.The fact is that mexico is out of control and to be even alliliated with such place makes alot of peaple discusted.Keep Puerto out of your vocabulary.We honor The United States and we will defend it to the end.

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      • #4
        [SIZE="4"]Mi inglis is pelfect, stop citicicing mi inglish. No body sed tat Puelto rico is de seim ass Mexico, butt tat thei has the seim proglem wiff druggs. Mi inglish is veri gud, i wen to coledge to studi inglis. i difen the united estates in vies nan so don cull me a trator. wat do yu mean bi "dumpest", yu mean "dumbest:. Don criticice if yu don nou inglis. I wil kip puelto rico out of mi bocavulari. Yu ar veri smart kaling Mejico a comunist contri!
        an amezid, yu mus bilong to Mensa, wiff al de brayns. Guao! Can yu spik or rite Espanish? Que quiere dicil "alliliated" yu youised, wat do sit mean? Giff me an exsampol so I nou you can spik espanish. Loff yu tu!![ I lov rancheras and noverlas mejicana Guey!/ Guay ar yu "discusted", my frend yur inglis is TERRIBLE go to coleye like me an lern inglisghSIZE]

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cmbigfoot@live. View Post
          My suggestion to you and your comments about Puerto Rico.First of all this is the United Staes not Mexico and you should learn to write in english and read english.As far as mexico haveing the same problems,let me tell you that that is the most dumpest statement I have ever heard.The fact is that mexico is out of control and to be even alliliated with such place makes alot of peaple discusted.Keep Puerto out of your vocabulary.We honor The United States and we will defend it to the end.
          Amen dude! Amen!

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          • #6
            Finalmente los conservadores han encontrado una voz en PR.com, a traves del Punkmeister, un poco intransigente y fanatico, pero que se va a hacer. Sera el AnotherRican disfrazado de Meister?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Yujike View Post
              Finalmente los conservadores han encontrado una voz en PR.com, a traves del Punkmeister, un poco intransigente y fanatico, pero que se va a hacer. Sera el AnotherRican disfrazado de Meister?
              I have no idea who that is and yes I am and will always be a Libertarian and a conservative y como dicen por ahi, si no te gusta no te lo comas,,,

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              • #8
                [SIZE="4"]One of the results of living in colonial servitude is that you have no control over your own affairs. This has been brought to you by your WORTHLESS CONSTITUTION. The ever expanding reach of the drug traffic, the weapons business, the record braking murder-murder for hire rate,the corrupt branches of government, like the most corrupt and expensive Legislature ijn the whole USAis the Puertorrican one, the most corrupt judicial system in the Universe. Why hire a lawyer when it is so easy to buy the judge, and countless heads of agencies and departments who have stolen millions and millions earmarked for the most needy: the children, the elderly, the infirm. And let's not forget the tragic traffic in humans from Haiti, the Dominican Republic and points beyond. You don't even have control of your own borders so drugs, weapons, humans flow in like the air we breath. And all of this happens REGARDLESS of the party in power, they are all crooks. Come on Punkmeister, this is the system that you defend and love? I have to give you more credit than you deserve. You, like many of us, should be outraged and asking for justice and redemption and their heads!!! I understand, you love the island like many of us do, but this system is untenable and the people who defend it seems to do so for the only reason that they are somehow BENEFITING from this chaos.[ La medicina de verdad si es muy amarga para este pobre enfermo llamado Puerto Rico./SIZE]

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                • #9
                  What a cop out! Are you seriously suggesting that is freedom and democracy that are to blame for our society's ills?

                  Our borders share the same crappy policy of the rest of the United States anyway or haven't you noticed the illegal immigrant tide, sweatshops and Mexican cartels now partially controlling some areas of the US mexico border controlling areas in both sides of the border that is.And what does Obama plan to do with all the drug runners, gun runners and so on? Give them all amnesty and citizenship! can anyone say hip, hip, horray! (NOT).

                  Worthless politicians does not equal a worthless constitution but a lack of leadership like the one Luiz Muñoz Marin and Luis A Ferre had and we havent had since...

                  In a nutshell I would never give up my rights and my freedom for your dreamed up totalitarian/marxist/socialist paradise.
                  .

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                  • #10
                    El mismo sonsonete, I did tire really fast of your misma you know what. Let me go back to my socialist/marxist/communist lair (actually my backyard pool for a Fourth of July barbecue and fireworks) and give up talking to this megaphone. Nice not really talking to you.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Yujike View Post
                      El mismo sonsonete, I did tire really fast of your misma you know what. Let me go back to my socialist/marxist/communist lair (actually my backyard pool for a Fourth of July barbecue and fireworks) and give up talking to this megaphone. Nice not really talking to you.
                      My bad I've come to realize you are probably not even of Puerto Rican decent...

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                      • #12
                        Estupidopacientes and other social ills

                        While complete legalization and control seems like a groovy idea and there is a fairly convincing argument to do so; we must remember the following facts; IN MOST JURISDICTIONS mere drug possession has been decriminalized and these cases are often dismissed or fined as low level misdemeanors. Simple possession of Marijuana in the federal system for example, if done by a first offender, can lead to a 6 month or so Pretrial Diversion Term and a subsequent or concurrent dismissal at the time of the execution of a Pretrial Diversion agreement. DRUG COURTS have been created in every state, starting in the late 80s in an attempt to expedite case processing and downgrade cases so that offenders could get treatment.

                        In effect, the courts, prosecutors, and the educational system have worked worked together in an effort to address the drug problem. Obiously the problem is still out of control but there are many reasons for this, namely greate production and distribution of drugs, constant demands, continuing family breakdowns, among others.

                        Legalizing drugs will result in an INCREASE in use. [IF YOU OFFER they will snort, smoke, or inject- remember this] There will probably be a 200 percent increase need for drug treatment money; at least in the first decade or so after legaization.

                        Here is a small list of consequences following legalization-

                        Your auto and home owners insurance premiums will go up.
                        "High" driving motor vehicle accidents will increase. [Also, municipal fines and collections will increase- offsetting, somewhat, the costs of increased police arrests for high driving.
                        School curriculums will have to be revised.
                        Money laundering prosecutions will go up as legal pot growers will seek to hide their legally gained funds.
                        Rape rates will probably go up somewhat due to a higher incidence of intoxication.
                        Municipal insurance premiums will go up as insurance companies will have a greater rate of filings due to an increase in intoxication injuries.

                        As a society we better think twice about what we are asking for because just as is the case now there will be serious consequences.

                        I am not arguing that we dont address the problem but I am not a great proponent of legalization; I am in the belly of the beast every day and see first hand the consequences of drug use. Most people simply dont realize the depth and complexity of this problem. The media, which can be a very powerful learning tool, are often the source of the greatest misinformation about the subject.

                        Last edited by Sonambulo; 17th August 2009, 09:55.

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                        • #13
                          ^ I realize it is not a perfect solution but I'm pretty certain the murder rate would drop to nearly 99.5 percent if at least Marihuana is legalized and the rest of the drugs are somehow provided by the government on a medical basis at least. The point is to take the Hampones that are ruining our lifes out of business.

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                          • #14
                            Salió a la luz un informe sobre un nuevo récord en la población penal en los EU: hay 2,078,570 presos en las cárceles, un aumento de 41,000 desde el año pasado y el mayor incremento en cuatro años. La población penal de mujeres rebasó los 100,000 por primera vez, el porciento de aumento fue el doble de los hombres. Todo esto a un costo de cerca de 57 BILLONES de dólares al año. Cientos de miles de estos encarcelados son negros o hispanos sentenciados a largos años de cárcel por crimenes menores como la mera posesión de drogas. Durante los últimos 25 años el sistema se ha cuadruplicado a pesar de que la tasa de criminalidad es la más baja en treinta años.

                            ¿Por qué no legalizar a modo de "medicar" las drogas?

                            Creo en la "medicación" y me explico. El gobierno tendría el monopolio de las drogas y le provee la droga a todo ciudadano que quiera meterse drogas, que tiene vicio ahora, a la misma vez que se proveen programas para disuadirlos de esta terrible escoria. Todo en un ambiente bien administrado, las agujas limpias, todo en un ambiente de hospital, con personal preparado para este trabajo. Se elimina el intermediario-vendedor de drogas porque ya no existe la ganancia y los dólares ni las armas que comprometen a tantos individuos a vivir una vida criminal. Se economizan billones al reducirse la población penal, la mayoría de los cuales estan alli por casos menores de posesión, se reducen los casos del SIDA porque no se intercambian las agujas, se reduce la prostitución que a tantas mujeres afecta porque estan en el vicio, despues de "curarse" la mayor parte de los adictos podrían tener un trabajo sin preocuparse de robar para obtener el dinero para comprar drogas, se reducirían los asesinatos por la lucha por los "puntos" de drogas, habría que emplear menos policías o reasignarlos a otras áreas donde más se necesiten, habría un poco más de paz familiar porque sabemos cuan destructivo es este problema en el seno familiar. El gobierno podría utilizar el dinero ahorrado para lanzar programas efectivos de educación en la prevención de estos vicios, especialmente programas dirigidos a la juventud y a aquéllos en mayor riesgo. No se podra seguir comprando jueces y legisladores con el dinero que produce el narcotráfico y las armas de fuego.
                            Last edited by Yujike; 23rd August 2009, 07:19.

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                            • #15
                              Wow Yukije I find myself agreeing with you on the medicalization of most drugs and the legalization of Marihuana. I'm sure the clandestine gun trade would go down along with the criminal empires of the Hampones as soon as measures like this are put into effect. Making it more diffiicult for citizens to arm themselves has proven a dismal failure because criminals get their weapons from the illegal drugs/guns trade hence me being on your side on this issue at least...

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